# A question for the "Stopping watcher service" message

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/a-question-for-the-stopping-watcher-service-message/364642>\
**Category:** Elasticsearch\
**Created:** [August 9, 2024, 5:03am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/a-question-for-the-stopping-watcher-service-message/364642 "2024-08-09T05:03:33Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 3\
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**Author:** ![chulkim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b487fb/32.png) [@chulkim](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/chulkim)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2024, 5:03am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/a-question-for-the-stopping-watcher-service-message/364642/1 "2024-08-09T05:03:33Z")

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Does anyone know what could cause the following message in the log?

```auto
stopping watch service, reason [watcher manually marked to shutdown by cluster state update]

```

The service looks like stopped but not sure what could cause this.

Thanks in advance

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**Author:** ![Keith\_Massey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/keith_massey/32/83666_2.png) [@Keith\_Massey](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Keith_Massey)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2024, 1:54pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/a-question-for-the-stopping-watcher-service-message/364642/2 "2024-08-09T13:54:51Z")

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Hi @chulkim. Was anything happening on your cluster at the time? For example that can happen during an upgrade. Watcher is restarted automatically after the upgrade. Is watcher currently running?

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**Author:** ![Keith\_Massey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/keith_massey/32/83666_2.png) [@Keith\_Massey](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Keith_Massey)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2024, 1:57pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/a-question-for-the-stopping-watcher-service-message/364642/3 "2024-08-09T13:57:44Z")

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Also, do you see this once in the logs? Or do you see it repeatedly?