# Adding APM as integration facing Kibana security must be enabled to use Fleet

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/adding-apm-as-integration-facing-kibana-security-must-be-enabled-to-use-fleet/348292>\
**Category:** APM\
**Tags:** ui\
**Created:** [November 30, 2023, 6:26am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/adding-apm-as-integration-facing-kibana-security-must-be-enabled-to-use-fleet/348292 "2023-11-30T06:26:43Z")\
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**Author:** ![Yasir\_Zafar](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/yasir_zafar/32/126132_2.png) [@Yasir\_Zafar](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Yasir_Zafar)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2023, 6:26am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/adding-apm-as-integration-facing-kibana-security-must-be-enabled-to-use-fleet/348292/1 "2023-11-30T06:26:43Z")

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When i am trying to add APM as integration point facing.

Error loading integration details

Kibana security must be enabled to use Fleet.

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**Author:** ![stephenb](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/stephenb/32/40856_2.png) [@stephenb](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/stephenb)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2023, 8:10pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/adding-apm-as-integration-facing-kibana-security-must-be-enabled-to-use-fleet/348292/2 "2023-12-05T20:10:07Z")

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Hi @Yasir_Zafar Welcome to the community...

What version are you on?

But yes as the error states to Use Fleet + Integrations (and in this case the APM Integration Server) you need to have security enabled...

If you want to use APM with out Fleet / Security you will need to install a separate Self Managed APM Server

> **[Self manage APM Server | APM User Guide \[8.11\] | Elastic](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/apm/guide/current/getting-started-apm-server.html)**

How to install here

> **[APM Server binary | APM User Guide \[8.11\] | Elastic](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/apm/guide/current/_apm_server_binary.html)**

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 8:10pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/adding-apm-as-integration-facing-kibana-security-must-be-enabled-to-use-fleet/348292/3 "2024-01-02T20:10:43Z")

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