# Adding indices to New Spaces - not able to **URL:** \ **Category:** Kibana\ **Created:** [November 19, 2020, 3:58pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/adding-indices-to-new-spaces-not-able-to/256014 "2020-11-19T15:58:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![lnxjenn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/lnxjenn/32/32816_2.png) [@lnxjenn](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/lnxjenn)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 3:58pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/adding-indices-to-new-spaces-not-able-to/256014/1 "2020-11-19T15:58:41Z")
I am creating new spaces for grouping our users together with their appropriate feeds. But I cannot see the feeds within the new space, when i try to add them into the Index Patterns. Now, as a user in the default space, i can access those particular indices (the ones i'd like to add to the Space). But when I search index patterns in the new space, the indices do not show up as an option at all. I have a role created, and tied to the new space. That role is tied to the indices in question as well. (those came up as options with role setup). So i am perplexed as why I cannot add those indices to the Space, under that role. Can anyone help or guide me on how to fix this and get the indices into the new Space? Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![AClerk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/aclerk/32/55297_2.png) [@AClerk](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/AClerk)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 11:54pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/adding-indices-to-new-spaces-not-able-to/256014/2 "2020-11-19T23:54:45Z")
Index pattern is a local object. Each space will have its own. So you need to create new index patterns for each new space. ---
**Author:** ![lnxjenn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/lnxjenn/32/32816_2.png) [@lnxjenn](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/lnxjenn)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 8:27am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/adding-indices-to-new-spaces-not-able-to/256014/3 "2020-11-20T08:27:55Z")
I am trying to create a new index pattern under that Space, but the option of the indices I want are not showing up as options. None of the indices are showing up as options. I have specifically added the start of the indices with \* and even put a specific one in the permissions for the space and the role i am attaching to the space, and those still not an option when trying to create the index pattern. I would think, since it's showing in the default space, that those indices are coming into the cluster/s and thus, can pull those into the new Space for specific monitoring, setting up the index pattern. I have done this on a cluster with slightly older version, but this is newer 7.8 I think, and seems to be giving me issues. So i am trying to deduce if there is some extra bit in creating spaces and setting up feeds in those spaces. In the ones I did in the 6.8 versions awhile back, I don't recall having this issue. I hope that makes sense. ---
**Author:** ![AClerk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/aclerk/32/55297_2.png) [@AClerk](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/AClerk)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 10:28pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/adding-indices-to-new-spaces-not-able-to/256014/4 "2020-11-22T22:28:27Z")
Try with a superuser. If it works there (it should) then you have a misconfigured role. ---
**Author:** ![lnxjenn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/lnxjenn/32/32816_2.png) [@lnxjenn](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/lnxjenn)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2020, 1:28pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/adding-indices-to-new-spaces-not-able-to/256014/5 "2020-11-23T13:28:16Z")
I have been doing it as a super user. I have also tested as a normal kibana user, with permissions to that space and those indices. I have a ticket open at the moment, as even my support guy couldn't figure out why it wasn't adding them. He did mention trying import/export into the space. but i can't get that to work either. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2020, 1:28pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/adding-indices-to-new-spaces-not-able-to/256014/6 "2020-12-21T13:28:30Z")
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