# Alternatives to old .kibana indices to retrieve dashboards title

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/alternatives-to-old-kibana-indices-to-retrieve-dashboards-title/364925>\
**Category:** Kibana\
**Created:** [August 14, 2024, 5:53pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/alternatives-to-old-kibana-indices-to-retrieve-dashboards-title/364925 "2024-08-14T17:53:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![plcharl](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/plcharl/32/136782_2.png) [@plcharl](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/plcharl)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2024, 5:53pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/alternatives-to-old-kibana-indices-to-retrieve-dashboards-title/364925/1 "2024-08-14T17:53:01Z")

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Hello all !

My client just migrated from ELK7 -\> ELK8.

We have a logstash pipeline indexing some kibana audit logs to make statistics over defined spaces/dashboard on our Kibana, which was using **.kibana indexes** to retrieve dashboards title from dashboards id present in audit logs, to enrich processed documents

Since ELK8, its seems that dashboards are not anymore indexed as document in .kibana indices (using the old id syntax : "%{space\_id}:%{object\_type}:%{object\_id})

Is it still one index containing an equivalence between dashboards id and dashboards title in ELK8?  
Or are we forced, now, to use Kibana API to get data about currently defined saved objects?

Thank you in advance

PLC

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**Author:** ![Dzmitry](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/dzmitry/32/65026_2.png) [@Dzmitry](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Dzmitry)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2024, 4:46pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/alternatives-to-old-kibana-indices-to-retrieve-dashboards-title/364925/2 "2024-08-19T16:46:48Z")

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Hey @plcharl ,

You can read more about the change in [elastic/kibana#154888](https://github.com/elastic/kibana/pull/154888)

Using Kibana API is the most reliable way to retrieve saved objects.

Best regards, Dima

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**Author:** ![plcharl](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/plcharl/32/136782_2.png) [@plcharl](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/plcharl)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 9:30am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/alternatives-to-old-kibana-indices-to-retrieve-dashboards-title/364925/3 "2024-08-20T09:30:24Z")

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Hey @Dzmitry,

Thank you for your quick reply !  
This is exactly the response that I was looking for.  
I know that the best practice is to use the Kibana API but I wanted to understand the nature of that change, and have a 2nd option if needed ! So thank you for the link to the relevant PR. It always better when you can understand the internals !

Regards, PLC

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**Author:** ![erikg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/91b2a8/32.png) [@erikg](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/erikg)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2024, 2:55pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/alternatives-to-old-kibana-indices-to-retrieve-dashboards-title/364925/4 "2024-08-23T14:55:12Z")

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Also additional help for others wanting to do the same:

[izmaxxsun/kibana-access (github.com)](https://github.com/izmaxxsun/kibana-access?tab=readme-ov-file)