# APM for monitoring ELK applications
**URL:** https://discuss.elastic.co/t/apm-for-monitoring-elk-applications/324503
**Category:** APM
**Tags:** python
**Created:** [February 2, 2023, 6:09am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/apm-for-monitoring-elk-applications/324503 "2023-02-02T06:09:46Z")
**Posts on this page:** 9
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### Author:  [@Aniket\_Pant](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Aniket_Pant)
#### Post date: [February 2, 2023, 6:09am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/apm-for-monitoring-elk-applications/324503/1 "2023-02-02T06:09:46Z")
Hi Community,
Just started APM from today. Running ELK version 7.17 , installed APM also
can we use APM for monitoring ELK applications.
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### Author:  [@Emily\_Stolfo](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Emily_Stolfo)
#### Post date: [February 2, 2023, 12:31pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/apm-for-monitoring-elk-applications/324503/2 "2023-02-02T12:31:23Z")
Hi @Aniket_Pant
Are you referring to the APM Python agent? Where have you installed it and what information are you looking for that's not covered in the documentation: [APM Python Agent Reference [6.x] | Elastic](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/apm/agent/python/current/index.html)
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### Author:  [@Aniket\_Pant](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Aniket_Pant)
#### Post date: [February 2, 2023, 1:12pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/apm-for-monitoring-elk-applications/324503/3 "2023-02-02T13:12:08Z")
Hi @Emily_Stolfo
I want to ask can we monitor elk application with APM
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### Author:  [@basepi](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/basepi)
#### Post date: [February 2, 2023, 6:21pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/apm-for-monitoring-elk-applications/324503/4 "2023-02-02T18:21:05Z")
ELK is Elasticsearch, Logstash, and Kibana. Are you asking if you can monitor those pieces of software with APM? Or do you mean something different when you say "ELK applications"?
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### Author:  [@Aniket\_Pant](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Aniket_Pant)
#### Post date: [February 3, 2023, 4:35am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/apm-for-monitoring-elk-applications/324503/5 "2023-02-03T04:35:49Z")
Hi @basepi ,
Why i want to use APM for observing ELK Applications ?
1. when kibana communicate to Elasticsearch , some time we get latency some time kibana
take long time for loading the dashboards in that case we need to APM
2. Similarly with logstash how it interact with elasticsearch.
Metricbeat is there for monitoring those application but i am just curious to know can we APM for getting insightful information from ELK applications.
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### Author:  [@Aniket\_Pant](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Aniket_Pant)
#### Post date: [February 5, 2023, 11:02am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/apm-for-monitoring-elk-applications/324503/6 "2023-02-05T11:02:14Z")
Can it be possible?
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### Author:  [@warkolm](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/warkolm)
#### Post date: [February 5, 2023, 10:08pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/apm-for-monitoring-elk-applications/324503/7 "2023-02-05T22:08:02Z")
No, that's not possible at this stage.
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### Author:  [@Aniket\_Pant](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Aniket_Pant)
#### Post date: [February 12, 2023, 4:25pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/apm-for-monitoring-elk-applications/324503/8 "2023-02-12T16:25:04Z")
Hi @warkolm ,
This is the documentation [https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/kibana/master/kibana-debugging.html](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/kibana/master/kibana-debugging.html)
and there is a section of apm but i don't know how to use it
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### Author:  [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2023, 12:25pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/apm-for-monitoring-elk-applications/324503/9 "2023-03-05T12:25:27Z")
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