# APM JMS -Tibco

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/apm-jms-tibco/211185>\
**Category:** APM\
**Tags:** java\
**Created:** [December 9, 2019, 8:07pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/apm-jms-tibco/211185 "2019-12-09T20:07:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![tmihaldinec](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@tmihaldinec](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/tmihaldinec)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2019, 8:07pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/apm-jms-tibco/211185/1 "2019-12-09T20:07:22Z")

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Hi,

this is just a question if you can help  
is there any documentation how to integrate ELK APM java agent and Tibco EMS/JMS

if you guys can help it would be awesome

Thanks  
tomislav

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**Author:** ![Sylvain\_Juge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/sylvain_juge/32/55521_2.png) [@Sylvain\_Juge](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Sylvain_Juge)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 10:20am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/apm-jms-tibco/211185/2 "2019-12-10T10:20:50Z")

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Hi @tmihaldinec,

Do you want to install APM agent:

- on applications that use Tibco as JMS messaging platform
- on Tibco itself

Installing agent on applications that use JMS is probably the most interesting option, as monitoring JMS messages on Tibco itself would not provide very actionable information, and is also probably better covered with dedicated monitoring tools, just like a database server.

JMS is an `incubating` feature, and is thus disabled by default, [see documentation on how to enable it](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/apm/agent/java/current/supported-technologies-details.html#supported-messaging-frameworks).

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**Author:** ![tmihaldinec](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@tmihaldinec](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/tmihaldinec)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 10:39am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/apm-jms-tibco/211185/3 "2019-12-10T10:39:22Z")

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Hi,

many thanks.. i was trying to gather info how to install APM agent on Tibco itself and to connect all applications to be visible in APM

but.. now when i am reading your post i can see that this is better idea than doing APM on Tibco itself

just for sake of curiosity.. installing APM agent is not possible?

thanks  
tomislav

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**Author:** ![Sylvain\_Juge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/sylvain_juge/32/55521_2.png) [@Sylvain\_Juge](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Sylvain_Juge)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 12:42pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/apm-jms-tibco/211185/4 "2019-12-10T12:42:40Z")

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From what I've read on their documentation that seems possible, but I don't know exactly how to do it.

Searching for ways to configure JVM parameters to add a `-javaagent` parameter should be a good start, as I guess it's quite unlikely that they document how to attach a Java agent to their solution.

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2019, 8:42am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/apm-jms-tibco/211185/5 "2019-12-31T08:42:49Z")

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