# APM Kibana Traces Issue

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/apm-kibana-traces-issue/364684>\
**Category:** APM\
**Tags:** ui\
**Created:** [August 9, 2024, 2:08pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/apm-kibana-traces-issue/364684 "2024-08-09T14:08:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![erikg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/91b2a8/32.png) [@erikg](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/erikg)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2024, 2:08pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/apm-kibana-traces-issue/364684/1 "2024-08-09T14:08:47Z")

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Hello,  
I am having issues with traces data stream.

In Index Management, it shows me error. It says:

```auto
{
  "failed_step": "readonly",
  "step_info": {
    "type": "security_exception",
    "reason": "action [indices:admin/block/add] is unauthorized for user [kibana_system] with effective roles [kibana_system] on indices [.ds-traces-apm-default-2024.07.12-000011], this action is granted by the index privileges [manage,all]"
  }
}

```

The issue is kibana\_system is a reserved role, you can't update it.

Any help would be great.

8.14.3 - APM Integration/Kibana/Elastic