# APM Sercurity Index priviliges error when starting

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/apm-sercurity-index-priviliges-error-when-starting/234579>\
**Category:** APM\
**Tags:** ui\
**Created:** [May 27, 2020, 4:09pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/apm-sercurity-index-priviliges-error-when-starting/234579 "2020-05-27T16:09:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![bmclellan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@bmclellan](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/bmclellan)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 4:09pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/apm-sercurity-index-priviliges-error-when-starting/234579/1 "2020-05-27T16:09:19Z")

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Hello,

I am getting a security index privilege error when attempting to start APM in Kibana. I do not have any security enabled.

**Kibana version** :  
7.7

**Elasticsearch version** :  
7.7

**APM Server version** :  
7.7

**APM Agent language and version** :  
English

**Browser version** :  
Chrome 81.0.4044.138 (64 bit)

**Original install method (e.g. download page, yum, deb, from source, etc.) and version**:  
kibana

**Fresh install or upgraded from other version?**  
upgrade 7.x

**Is there anything special in your setup?** For example, are you using the Logstash or Kafka outputs? Are you using a load balancer in front of the APM Servers? Have you changed index pattern, generated custom templates, changed agent configuration etc.  
No, I do not have any security enabled, this is a basic install.

**Description of the problem including expected versus actual behavior. Please include screenshots (if relevant)**:  
 ![APM](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/5/15b156e525613db438640347143b94ebac5fad38.jpeg)

**Steps to reproduce** :

1. Try to start APM console
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3. 

**Errors in browser console (if relevant)**:

**Provide logs and/or server output (if relevant)**:

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**Author:** ![sqren](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/sqren/32/26110_2.png) [@sqren](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/sqren)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2020, 10:34am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/apm-sercurity-index-priviliges-error-when-starting/234579/2 "2020-06-04T10:34:24Z")

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Hi Barry,

Apologies for this issue. The error is annoying but isn't indicative of any real problem - only that security is disabled.  
The bug has already been [addressed](https://github.com/elastic/kibana/pull/64627) and will be released in 7.8.

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2020, 6:34am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/apm-sercurity-index-priviliges-error-when-starting/234579/3 "2020-06-25T06:34:26Z")

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