# Apm-server set-up for version 9.1.2 **URL:** \ **Category:** APM\ **Tags:** fleet, java, server\ **Created:** [August 29, 2025, 6:24am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/apm-server-set-up-for-version-9-1-2/381437 "2025-08-29T06:24:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Namita\_Jaokar](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/namita_jaokar/32/104106_2.png) [@Namita\_Jaokar](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Namita_Jaokar)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2025, 6:24am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/apm-server-set-up-for-version-9-1-2/381437/1 "2025-08-29T06:24:49Z")
Hi Team, Our team for a brief time had elasticsearch , kibana and _ **standalone apm-server** _ all having **version 8.6** for observability and visualizing traces in kibana. Recently we migrated to the latest version i.e. 9.1.2 version of elasticsearch, kibana and standalone apm-server , But unable to view the elastic java agent services under Observability\> APM\> Services section in kibana. We haven’t installed fleet-server as in our previous set-up with version 8.6 did not require fleet-server for tracing /Observability. I am in the assumption that due to the missing fleet-server set-up we are unable to capture traces. Is Fleet server a mandatory component for the latest versions? I also read in the documentation regarding elastic agent set-up along with fleet server. So is elastic agent also a component that needs to be integrated along with fleet-server ? Lastly , I wanted to confirm that in order to achieve Observability I will need to have below components 1.elasticsearch 2. kibana 3. standalone apm-server 4.fleet-server 5.elastic agent integration with fleet-server 6. elastic java agent jar for instrumenting the target application Does Upgrading to 9.1.2 version will still require standalone apm-server? Please let me know if I have correctly understood the components required. Thanks & Regards, Namita Jaokar ---
**Author:** ![simitt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/simitt/32/106406_2.png) [@simitt](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/simitt)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2025, 6:31am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/apm-server-set-up-for-version-9-1-2/381437/2 "2025-08-29T06:31:07Z")
Hi @Namita_Jaokar , you can either use the standalone apm-server or the Fleet managed Elastic Agent with the apm integration. In both cases an apm-server will be running, but it will be managed differently. See [Set up APM Server | Elastic Docs](https://www.elastic.co/docs/solutions/observability/apm/apm-server-setup) for more information on the options and how to set things up. Hope this helps. ---
**Author:** ![Namita\_Jaokar](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/namita_jaokar/32/104106_2.png) [@Namita\_Jaokar](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Namita_Jaokar)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2025, 6:39am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/apm-server-set-up-for-version-9-1-2/381437/3 "2025-08-29T06:39:25Z")
Hi @simitt , Thankyou for your quick response. In both cases fleet-server is required ? Will also check the documentation link provided Best Regards, Namita ---
**Author:** ![stephenb](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/stephenb/32/40856_2.png) [@stephenb](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/stephenb)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2025, 3:24pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/apm-server-set-up-for-version-9-1-2/381437/4 "2025-08-29T15:24:05Z")
> [@Namita\_Jaokar](#): > > Thankyou for your quick response. In both cases fleet-server is required ? Stand-alone does not specifically require a fleet server per [here](https://www.elastic.co/docs/solutions/observability/apm/apm-server-setup#apm-setup-apm-server-binary) ![Screenshot 2025-08-29 at 8.23.53 AM](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/5/5/55bbe3e677b27ecb9a96263775ac3bd8ec26e07f.png) ---
**Author:** ![Namita\_Jaokar](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/namita_jaokar/32/104106_2.png) [@Namita\_Jaokar](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Namita_Jaokar)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2025, 5:01am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/apm-server-set-up-for-version-9-1-2/381437/5 "2025-09-01T05:01:37Z")
Hi @stephenb , Just wanted to clear my understanding . In the above shared reference doc the APM Agents refers to the elastic APM agent that can be integrated with or without fleet or is it the elastic APM Agent jar ? I was able visualize traces under kibana’s observability in my windows system after installing the standalone elastic apm agent binary (.exe) in addition to standalone apm-server, kibana, elasticsearch and elastic java agent jar instrumented with the target application. Best Regards, Namita ---
**Author:** ![stephenb](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/stephenb/32/40856_2.png) [@stephenb](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/stephenb)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2025, 5:53am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/apm-server-set-up-for-version-9-1-2/381437/6 "2025-09-01T05:53:01Z")
Yeah unfortunately Agent is a term that's definitely overloaded these days. In the diagram above the APM Agent is referring to > **[Elastic APM agents | Elastic Docs](https://www.elastic.co/docs/solutions/observability/apm/elastic-apm-agents)** > > Elastic APM agents automatically measure application performance and track errors. They offer built-in support for popular frameworks and technologies,... If you are referring to Java APM Agent, it's specifically this > **[APM Java agent | APM Java agent](https://www.elastic.co/docs/reference/apm/agents/java)** > > The Elastic APM Java Agent automatically measures the performance of your application and tracks errors. It has built-in support for popular frameworks... ---
**Author:** ![Namita\_Jaokar](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/namita_jaokar/32/104106_2.png) [@Namita\_Jaokar](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Namita_Jaokar)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2025, 6:29am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/apm-server-set-up-for-version-9-1-2/381437/7 "2025-09-01T06:29:10Z")
Thanks @stephenb for the clarity. Will move forward with containerized environment set-up along with these components. Thanks & Regards, Namita