# APM span

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/apm-span/248379>\
**Category:** APM\
**Tags:** java\
**Created:** [September 11, 2020, 8:24pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/apm-span/248379 "2020-09-11T20:24:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 3\
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**Author:** ![anjana1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@anjana1](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/anjana1)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2020, 8:24pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/apm-span/248379/1 "2020-09-11T20:24:07Z")

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**Kibana version** : 7.9

**Elasticsearch version** : 7.9

**APM Server version** : 7.9

**APM Agent language and version** : java 1.8

**Fresh install or upgraded from other version?** fresh install

**Is there anything special in your setup?** For example, are you using the Logstash or Kafka outputs? Are you using a load balancer in front of the APM Servers? Have you changed index pattern, generated custom templates, changed agent configuration etc. :-

I have created parent and child spans for my APM implementation. I was having no issues with earlier versions like 7.8, 7.6 etc. After fresh install of 7.9 version I only see parent spans and child spans have disappeared. I am using apm-agent-api-1.9 jar for the java implementation

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**Author:** ![Sylvain\_Juge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/sylvain_juge/32/55521_2.png) [@Sylvain\_Juge](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Sylvain_Juge)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 2:07pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/apm-span/248379/2 "2020-09-15T14:07:44Z")

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What kind of spans/transactions do you monitor with our API ?

From instrumentation perspective, if you have kept the same API and Java agent versions, there should be no difference and the data sent to apm-server and that is visible in Kibana should be the same.

- Can you try to query those spans/transactions in Kibana to check if they are stored in ES ?
- Can you check agent debug logs and execute a few spans/transactions and check that they are properly reported ?

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 10:07am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/apm-span/248379/3 "2020-10-06T10:07:46Z")

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