# Are Kibana console and sense same?

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/are-kibana-console-and-sense-same/67999>\
**Category:** Kibana\
**Created:** [December 5, 2016, 8:30am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/are-kibana-console-and-sense-same/67999 "2016-12-05T08:30:14Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ahmad\_Ahmadi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/ahmad_ahmadi/32/13590_2.png) [@Ahmad\_Ahmadi](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Ahmad_Ahmadi)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2016, 8:30am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/are-kibana-console-and-sense-same/67999/1 "2016-12-05T08:30:14Z")

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I was reading [elasticsearch guide](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/guide/current/running-elasticsearch.html) then I tried to install Sense. While I was trying to install Sense I noticed the console section seems same as Sense screenshots. Is the guide out of date and Sense is merged to Kibana?

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**Author:** ![LeeDr](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/leedr/32/9289_2.png) [@LeeDr](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/LeeDr)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2016, 5:43pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/are-kibana-console-and-sense-same/67999/2 "2016-12-05T17:43:03Z")

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Yes, Sense is now called Console. So depending on the version of Kibana you are using.

You referenced the Elasticsearch 2.4 guide, so I think that would be correct in referring to it as `Sense` as that would be compatible with Kibana 4.x;  
[Elasticsearch: The Definitive Guide [2.x] » Getting Started » You Know, for Search… »](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/guide/current/running-elasticsearch.html)

I think the rename from Sense to Console coincided with the 5.0 release where Console is built-in to the Dev Tools tab of Kibana.

Regards,  
Lee

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2017, 5:43pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/are-kibana-console-and-sense-same/67999/3 "2017-01-02T17:43:17Z")

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**Author:** ![LeeDr](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/leedr/32/9289_2.png) [@LeeDr](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/LeeDr)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2017, 8:00pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/are-kibana-console-and-sense-same/67999/4 "2017-04-26T20:00:40Z")

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Another user posted this link;

[https://via.hypothes.is/https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/guide/current/running-elasticsearch.html#annotations:UecJGimWEeeo2Jsdjt39Yg](https://via.hypothes.is/https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/guide/current/running-elasticsearch.html#annotations:UecJGimWEeeo2Jsdjt39Yg)

Which appears to be a site that lets users add comments to external web pages (like updates to Elasticsearch: The Definitive Guide [2.x])

I can't vouch for anything users add there.

Regards,  
Lee