# Are these reasonable/expected metrics for an idle cluster?

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**Category:** Elasticsearch\
**Created:** [June 8, 2022, 7:30am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/are-these-reasonable-expected-metrics-for-an-idle-cluster/306644 "2022-06-08T07:30:16Z")\
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**Post date:** [June 8, 2022, 7:30am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/are-these-reasonable-expected-metrics-for-an-idle-cluster/306644/1 "2022-06-08T07:30:16Z")

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For an idle 3-node cluster (7.17.4), where all nodes are masters, i.e. listed under `initial_master_nodes`, is it normal that:

1. `Documents merged rate`, red-bordered on the image below, would be **on the order of 1000/s on an _idle_ cluster**?
2. `Query time` would be **zero on only _one_ of the nodes**? On the image, this would be node `es2` before and `es0` after the switch, pointed at with the left white arrow. (This metric is from Prometheus' `elasticsearch_indices_search_query_time_seconds`.)

One of the nodes, `es0`, a Kibana (7.17.4) is also running. **Is perhaps `Query time` rising Kibana's doing?**

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All of these shots are from Grafana Cloud-provided 'ES integration'. Full PromQL queries for `Documents merged rate` panel is

```auto
rate(elasticsearch_indices_merges_docs_total{job="$job",instance=~"$instance",cluster="$cluster",name=~"$name"}[$__rate_interval])

```

and for `Query time` panel.

```auto
irate(elasticsearch_indices_search_query_time_seconds{job="$job",instance=~"$instance",cluster="$cluster",name=~"$name"}[$__rate_interval]) 

```

 ![Screenshot 2022-06-08 at 09.04.35](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/3/3/33023809776161581596afea64c2a7cde6315ebe.jpeg)  
 ![Screenshot 2022-06-08 at 09.10.44](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/b/5/b54e9e243ee7cc7e5e7e9bb4857431774f0dfe1d.png)

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The indexes, and documents within them, are identical between 'now' and the start of the graphs, 24 h ago:

```auto
curl 'http://127.0.0.1:9200/_cat/indices?v'
health status index uuid pri rep docs.count docs.deleted store.size pri.store.size
green open .geoip_databases WjiXjTDRRy-qZgMnzGSGWQ 1 1 40 37 76.3mb 38.2mb
green open .apm-custom-link Dg7gUbajRzOsJ8Z64zOLxw 1 1 0 0 452b 226b
green open .apm-agent-configuration j0GCAZShRgGURj-y9x7ORw 1 1 0 0 452b 226b
green open .kibana_task_manager_7.17.4_001 QevcCzDMTbCrjroEx0GF9A 1 1 17 66376 25.8mb 13mb
green open .kibana_7.17.4_001 LCSPjV-3SnSI1Y9QHAWBZA 1 1 17 1 4.7mb 2.3mb
green open my-custom-index-2022-06-01 oHmNTGXhS-S4bPBMbh8wEQ 3 2 1 0 23kb 7.6kb
green open my-custom-index-2022-06-06 E4PlsGbKR-2hL1G2cyqj8Q 3 2 1 0 23kb 7.6kb

```

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**Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 7:30am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/are-these-reasonable-expected-metrics-for-an-idle-cluster/306644/2 "2022-07-06T07:30:37Z")

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