# By default Elasticsearch or Kibana does not support multiusers?

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/by-default-elasticsearch-or-kibana-does-not-support-multiusers/142863>\
**Category:** Elasticsearch\
**Created:** [August 3, 2018, 7:54am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/by-default-elasticsearch-or-kibana-does-not-support-multiusers/142863 "2018-08-03T07:54:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![Gosforth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f08c70/32.png) [@Gosforth](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Gosforth)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2018, 7:54am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/by-default-elasticsearch-or-kibana-does-not-support-multiusers/142863/1 "2018-08-03T07:54:35Z")

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Without commercial x-pack I can have only one Kibana account and one Elasticserach account?

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**Author:** ![warkolm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/warkolm/32/39224_2.png) [@warkolm](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/warkolm)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2018, 8:05am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/by-default-elasticsearch-or-kibana-does-not-support-multiusers/142863/2 "2018-08-03T08:05:36Z")

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There is no such thing as an account in Elasticsearch or Kibana, they are inherently multitenanted so many people can use the same service.

If you want access control then you do need [Security](https://www.elastic.co/products/stack/security).

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**Author:** ![Gosforth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f08c70/32.png) [@Gosforth](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Gosforth)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2018, 8:12am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/by-default-elasticsearch-or-kibana-does-not-support-multiusers/142863/3 "2018-08-03T08:12:16Z")

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Elastic Stack security features requires X-Pack. To my knowledge this is NOT free.

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**Author:** ![dadoonet](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/dadoonet/32/137187_2.png) [@dadoonet](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/dadoonet)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2018, 8:25am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/by-default-elasticsearch-or-kibana-does-not-support-multiusers/142863/4 "2018-08-03T08:25:50Z")

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Yes. That's true. Security requires a commercial license as you can see in [https://www.elastic.co/subscriptions](https://www.elastic.co/subscriptions).

Having different users need to have an authentication mechanism which means security.

Anyway, in the future, Kibana will provide "spaces" where you will be able to choose on which space you would like to work. This will most likely be available with the basic (free license), but as you won't have security, everyone will be able to connect to any space.

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**Author:** ![Gosforth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f08c70/32.png) [@Gosforth](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Gosforth)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2018, 8:45am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/by-default-elasticsearch-or-kibana-does-not-support-multiusers/142863/5 "2018-08-03T08:45:25Z")

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Thanks. I try to get pricing but this info is perfectly hidden. What is the price for x-pack or cloud version?

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**Author:** ![dadoonet](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/dadoonet/32/137187_2.png) [@dadoonet](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/dadoonet)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2018, 9:37am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/by-default-elasticsearch-or-kibana-does-not-support-multiusers/142863/6 "2018-08-03T09:37:11Z")

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If you want to have a pricing for x-pack, you need to use [the contact form](https://www.elastic.co/subscriptions) so we can evaluate your project in details.

The cloud pricing is public: [https://cloud.elastic.co/pricing](https://cloud.elastic.co/pricing)

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**Author:** ![Gosforth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f08c70/32.png) [@Gosforth](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Gosforth)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2018, 10:51am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/by-default-elasticsearch-or-kibana-does-not-support-multiusers/142863/7 "2018-08-03T10:51:24Z")

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Thank you

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 10:51am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/by-default-elasticsearch-or-kibana-does-not-support-multiusers/142863/8 "2018-08-31T10:51:28Z")

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