# Can Kibana 4 be installed alongside Kibana 3?
**URL:** https://discuss.elastic.co/t/can-kibana-4-be-installed-alongside-kibana-3/929
**Category:** Kibana
**Created:** [May 19, 2015, 8:36pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/can-kibana-4-be-installed-alongside-kibana-3/929 "2015-05-19T20:36:00Z")
**Posts on this page:** 6
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### Author:  [@Dave\_G](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Dave_G)
#### Post date: [May 19, 2015, 8:36pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/can-kibana-4-be-installed-alongside-kibana-3/929/1 "2015-05-19T20:36:00Z")
We have an existing Kibana 3 installation in production with a lot of data being gathered. I would like to install Kibana 4 to take advantage of some new features, but I don't want to break what we already have and I don't want to upgrade until all the people involved are ready. Can I install Kibana 4 and have both it and Kibana 3 running simultaneously on the same server? Or do I need to set up a new test box for this?
Thanks.
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### Author:  [@theuntergeek](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/theuntergeek)
#### Post date: [May 19, 2015, 8:49pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/can-kibana-4-be-installed-alongside-kibana-3/929/2 "2015-05-19T20:49:33Z")
Yes! There's no reason you cannot do this.
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### Author:  [@Richard\_Marshall](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Richard_Marshall)
#### Post date: [May 22, 2015, 1:30pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/can-kibana-4-be-installed-alongside-kibana-3/929/3 "2015-05-22T13:30:31Z")
We're in a similar situation; We make heavy use of the features in Kibana 3 that appear to be missing from Kibana 4. e.g. altering the colours of the charts, setting the scale of graphs, multiple queries per graph (i.e. 1 query is one line on a graph, a second query is a second line, etc.) but there are a couple of features in Kibana 4 that we'd like to use such as dashboards.
I was under the impression that Kibana 3 and Kibana 4 can co-exist as long as your ES cluster is version 1.4, but this limits some of the new features being available such as watcher.
Is this true, or does Kibana 3 work on an ES 1.5 cluster too?
Rich
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### Author:  [@zocoda](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/zocoda)
#### Post date: [May 31, 2015, 4:40am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/can-kibana-4-be-installed-alongside-kibana-3/929/4 "2015-05-31T04:40:55Z")
I'm also interested in this.
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### Author:  [@Dave\_G](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Dave_G)
#### Post date: [June 2, 2015, 1:37pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/can-kibana-4-be-installed-alongside-kibana-3/929/5 "2015-06-02T13:37:01Z")
I'm the OP, and we're now running Kibana 3 & 4 side-by-side. The word we have from Elastic support is that Kibana 3 will not work with ES 1.5. We are planning to upgrade to ES 1.5, so we are now in the process of migrating our existing Kibana 3 dashboards to Kibana 4.
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### Author:  [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)
#### Post date: [July 6, 2017, 2:18pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/can-kibana-4-be-installed-alongside-kibana-3/929/6 "2017-07-06T14:18:41Z")