# Can kibana authenticate via client certificate against elasticsearch with basic license?

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/can-kibana-authenticate-via-client-certificate-against-elasticsearch-with-basic-license/193952>\
**Category:** Kibana\
**Tags:** elastic-stack-security\
**Created:** [August 6, 2019, 7:43am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/can-kibana-authenticate-via-client-certificate-against-elasticsearch-with-basic-license/193952 "2019-08-06T07:43:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![asp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@asp](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/asp)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2019, 7:43am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/can-kibana-authenticate-via-client-certificate-against-elasticsearch-with-basic-license/193952/1 "2019-08-06T07:43:17Z")

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Hi,

As I understand I can use client-certificates for authenticating kibana against elasticsearch -\> so I don't need user / password anymore for kibana. Is that correct?

Can I authenticate with client certificates with basic license, or is it only included with gold / platinum?

thanks,  
Andreas

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**Author:** ![ikakavas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/ikakavas/32/34430_2.png) [@ikakavas](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/ikakavas)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2019, 7:58am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/can-kibana-authenticate-via-client-certificate-against-elasticsearch-with-basic-license/193952/2 "2019-08-06T07:58:06Z")

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Hi Andreas,

In order to have your Kibana user authenticate to elasticsearch with a client certificate , elasticsearch needs to have a [PKI realm configured](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/7.3/configuring-pki-realm.html) and PKI realms are not available in the basic license ( see the security section in the basic column [here](https://www.elastic.co/subscriptions) )

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**Author:** ![asp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@asp](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/asp)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2019, 7:59am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/can-kibana-authenticate-via-client-certificate-against-elasticsearch-with-basic-license/193952/3 "2019-08-06T07:59:57Z")

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Thanks for the answer. I assumed so, just wanted to be sure 😉

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2019, 8:00am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/can-kibana-authenticate-via-client-certificate-against-elasticsearch-with-basic-license/193952/4 "2019-09-03T08:00:04Z")

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