# Can we use basic Elasticsearch for commercial use
**URL:** https://discuss.elastic.co/t/can-we-use-basic-elasticsearch-for-commercial-use/319710
**Category:** Elasticsearch
**Created:** [November 24, 2022, 7:57am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/can-we-use-basic-elasticsearch-for-commercial-use/319710 "2022-11-24T07:57:26Z")
**Posts on this page:** 9
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### Author:  [@lhy507613824](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/lhy507613824)
#### Post date: [November 24, 2022, 7:57am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/can-we-use-basic-elasticsearch-for-commercial-use/319710/1 "2022-11-24T07:57:26Z")
Can we use basic Elasticsearch8.5 for commercial use
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### Author:  [@dadoonet](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/dadoonet)
#### Post date: [November 24, 2022, 8:17am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/can-we-use-basic-elasticsearch-for-commercial-use/319710/2 "2022-11-24T08:17:26Z")
Yes unless you are directly exposing to your users Elasticsearch or Kibana, in which case you should contact Elastic.
More details at: [FAQ on Elastic License 2.0 (ELv2) | Elastic](https://www.elastic.co/licensing/elastic-license/faq)
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### Author:  [@lhy507613824](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/lhy507613824)
#### Post date: [November 24, 2022, 8:37am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/can-we-use-basic-elasticsearch-for-commercial-use/319710/3 "2022-11-24T08:37:53Z")
thanks, We just used it for data storage
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### Author:  [@Rios](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Rios)
#### Post date: [November 24, 2022, 8:53am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/can-we-use-basic-elasticsearch-for-commercial-use/319710/4 "2022-11-24T08:53:09Z")
@dadoonet ELv2 FAQs have an excellent explanation 👍
Am I understood correctly?
The company A is hosting an ecommerce solution to other companies C, D, …
The company B is a system integration which helps to implement ELK
- It's permitted to the company B to implement ELK on the company A servers
- The company B may use ELK for the internal infrastructure as the basic license
- If they start to provide analytics to C, D, companies... it's then commercial version - not the basic license any more, no matter if you charge companies C,D... or not.
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### Author:  [@dadoonet](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/dadoonet)
#### Post date: [November 24, 2022, 10:38am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/can-we-use-basic-elasticsearch-for-commercial-use/319710/5 "2022-11-24T10:38:46Z")
@Rios IANAL but for the last point:
> - If they start to provide analytics to C, D, companies... it's then commercial version - not the basic license any more, no matter if you charge companies C,D... or not.
I'd say that your understanding is correct. But I'd double-check this by reaching out [the right people](mailto:elastic_license@elastic.co). 😉
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### Author:  [@Rios](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Rios)
#### Post date: [November 24, 2022, 11:23am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/can-we-use-basic-elasticsearch-for-commercial-use/319710/6 "2022-11-24T11:23:46Z")
Good, thx for info.
The last point could be under a discussion only if the company "A" provide analytic services free of charge, but they have to prove. For instance, since next month the same ecommerce hosting is XXX$, plus included log analytics by Elasic, but free of charge.
As you said, contact the right people by email, lawyers will said the last word, before a judge 🙂
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### Author:  [@lhy507613824](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/lhy507613824)
#### Post date: [November 28, 2022, 8:20am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/can-we-use-basic-elasticsearch-for-commercial-use/319710/7 "2022-11-28T08:20:45Z")
I have another question, When our product uses some functions of elasticsearch, can we still apply for a patent for this product?
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### Author:  [@dadoonet](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/dadoonet)
#### Post date: [November 28, 2022, 9:10am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/can-we-use-basic-elasticsearch-for-commercial-use/319710/8 "2022-11-28T09:10:40Z")
I have no idea on this. Better to ask the team.
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### Author:  [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)
#### Post date: [December 26, 2022, 9:11am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/can-we-use-basic-elasticsearch-for-commercial-use/319710/9 "2022-12-26T09:11:28Z")
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