# Cannot change APM indicies in Kibana

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/cannot-change-apm-indicies-in-kibana/379997>\
**Category:** Kibana\
**Created:** [July 10, 2025, 12:22pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/cannot-change-apm-indicies-in-kibana/379997 "2025-07-10T12:22:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 2\
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**Author:** ![querqueq](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/querqueq/32/141204_2.png) [@querqueq](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/querqueq)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2025, 12:22pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/cannot-change-apm-indicies-in-kibana/379997/1 "2025-07-10T12:22:30Z")

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Hello!

I'm logged in as the elastic user and I cannot change the indicies for the APM view in Kibana. I believe I set them some time ago to test something and now I cannot change them. The greyed out button tells me "Your user role doesn't have permissions to change APM indicies" but the elastic user has the superuser role.

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/9/e/9ec7a35ec53d00017969cbc1fe86a838d087c343.png)

The whole stack is in version 8.17.5.

Does anybody have an idea how to fix this or knows why the settings cannot be changed? Since I'm logged in as a superuser I assume the hint above 'Apply changes' is wrong.

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**Author:** ![querqueq](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/querqueq/32/141204_2.png) [@querqueq](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/querqueq)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2025, 9:36am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/cannot-change-apm-indicies-in-kibana/379997/2 "2025-08-14T09:36:32Z")

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I resolved the problem by replaying the request to Kibana for “Apply changes” from another space where I can still edit the indicies settings adjusted for my target space.

But I still don’t understand why I cannot change them via the UI. Even more so now since I can adjust them when I manually send the request.