# Cannot create watches

**URL:** https://discuss.elastic.co/t/cannot-create-watches/140916
**Category:** Elasticsearch
**Tags:** elastic-stack-alerting
**Created:** [July 20, 2018, 2:35pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/cannot-create-watches/140916 "2018-07-20T14:35:37Z")
**Posts on this page:** 4
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### Author: ![Wim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/da6949/32.png) [@Wim](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Wim)
#### Post date: [July 20, 2018, 2:35pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/cannot-create-watches/140916/1 "2018-07-20T14:35:37Z")

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When using elasticsearch 6.3.1 in combination with Kibana. (Elastic cloud instance)  
It is not possible to create watches. I always get this error

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/9/1/91e06ed86970337bf5d41aa986b79266490e7bb1.png)

How can I get around this?

Rgds,

Wim

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### Author: ![spinscale](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/spinscale/32/25011_2.png) [@spinscale](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/spinscale)
#### Post date: [July 20, 2018, 3:06pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/cannot-create-watches/140916/2 "2018-07-20T15:06:09Z")

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Hey

can you check your index templates using kibana, if there is a template named `watches`

```auto
GET _template/watches

```

if so, does this template contain a type named `watch`? I suppose this is somehow a leftover of a not completely finished upgrade. I'd like to propose a few steps here to make sure everything works

1. Delete the above template by calling `DELETE _template/watches`
2. Delete the legacy triggered watches template by calling `DELETE _template/triggered_watches`
3. Delete the `.triggered_watches` index (no worries it will be recreated, when watches execute)

Now try to create your watch and see if it works. If not, please report back and we'll go from there.

Hope this helps!

--Alex

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### Author: ![Wim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/da6949/32.png) [@Wim](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Wim)
#### Post date: [July 23, 2018, 2:39pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/cannot-create-watches/140916/3 "2018-07-23T14:39:04Z")

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Hi, indeed, I can now create new watches. Thanks a lot.

Wim

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### Author: ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)
#### Post date: [August 20, 2018, 2:39pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/cannot-create-watches/140916/4 "2018-08-20T14:39:04Z")

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