# Cannot delete templates - template upgrade service

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/cannot-delete-templates-template-upgrade-service/144398>\
**Category:** Elasticsearch\
**Created:** [August 14, 2018, 8:00pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/cannot-delete-templates-template-upgrade-service/144398 "2018-08-14T20:00:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![chobbs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dc4da7/32.png) [@chobbs](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/chobbs)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2018, 8:00pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/cannot-delete-templates-template-upgrade-service/144398/1 "2018-08-14T20:00:15Z")

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Just start working with elasticsearch and using a docker dev insurance. I've tried deleting all templates from the node using: curl -XDELETE '[http://localhost:9200/\_template/\*](http://localhost:9200/_template/*)'

This seems to work, but then in the logs is see a **TemplateUpgradeService** - and all the templtes get pout back into place. (_see log example below_)

[2018-08-14T19:10:15,697][INFO][o.e.c.m.TemplateUpgradeService] [BuH475f] Starting template upgrade to version 5.6.3, 2 templates will be updated and 0 will be removed  
[2018-08-14T19:10:15,830][INFO][o.e.c.m.TemplateUpgradeService] [BuH475f] Finished upgrading templates to version 5.6.3

I need to have all templates removed, but how do i disable or stop this service from running this upgrade?

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**Author:** ![chobbs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dc4da7/32.png) [@chobbs](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/chobbs)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 11:54pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/cannot-delete-templates-template-upgrade-service/144398/2 "2018-08-21T23:54:13Z")

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figured it out - needed to remove the xpack plugin

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2018, 11:54pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/cannot-delete-templates-template-upgrade-service/144398/3 "2018-09-18T23:54:13Z")

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