# Can't see frozen index spans

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/cant-see-frozen-index-spans/302683>\
**Category:** APM\
**Tags:** ui\
**Created:** [April 19, 2022, 7:40am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/cant-see-frozen-index-spans/302683 "2022-04-19T07:40:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![amcsi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/amcsi/32/104527_2.png) [@amcsi](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/amcsi)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2022, 7:40am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/cant-see-frozen-index-spans/302683/1 "2022-04-19T07:40:35Z")

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I was logging transactions with spans to APM. After realizing that spans took up too much space, I decided to set up and apply an index lifecycle for spans to go cold after 11-15 days, then get deleted after 30 days.

But those indexes that are frozen I can't seem to query at all; not from the Kibana logs, nor can I see the spans from the transactions in APM; only the ones from roughly 11 days ago. I thought frozen indexes are still supposed to be accessible, so how come I can't access them?

I have uploaded a screenshot of my Index Lifecycle configuration for spans, and also the current list of span indexes.

**Kibana version** : 7.8.0

**Elasticsearch version** : 7.8.0

**APM Server version** : 7.8.0

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**Author:** ![dgieselaar](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/dgieselaar/32/46947_2.png) [@dgieselaar](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/dgieselaar)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2022, 8:50am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/cant-see-frozen-index-spans/302683/2 "2022-04-19T08:50:47Z")

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Hey @amcsi, searching frozen indices is off by default, because it has a performance impact. If you want to enable it, you can try setting `search:includeFrozen` to `true` in Kibana Advanced Settings: [Advanced Settings | Kibana Guide [8.1] | Elastic](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/kibana/current/advanced-options.html). (The setting is deprecated and will be removed in 9.0, I'm not sure what the replacement is off the top of my head).

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2022, 4:50am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/cant-see-frozen-index-spans/302683/3 "2022-05-10T04:50:57Z")

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