# \_cat/indices counts not updating in7.2?
**URL:** https://discuss.elastic.co/t/cat-indices-counts-not-updating-in7-2/192350
**Category:** Elasticsearch
**Created:** [July 26, 2019, 4:20am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/cat-indices-counts-not-updating-in7-2/192350 "2019-07-26T04:20:35Z")
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### Author:  [@esmattdawson](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/esmattdawson)
#### Post date: [July 26, 2019, 4:20am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/cat-indices-counts-not-updating-in7-2/192350/1 "2019-07-26T04:20:35Z")
I'm indexing a large number of records using bulk requests and watching the index counts using watch 'curl \_cat/indices'. The index counts update for about 30s then stop. If I query the total count of all indexes using 'curl localhost:9200/\_count' the '\_cat/indices' counts start updating again for around another 30 seconds. In 6.5.4 this didn't happen, has something changed in 7.2?
Using MSI installed ElasticSearch 7.2.0 on windows 10
Indexing delay is the default which should be 1s.
Rarely it might update, maybe to do with a certain merge?
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### Author:  [@DavidTurner](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/DavidTurner)
#### Post date: [July 26, 2019, 5:33am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/cat-indices-counts-not-updating-in7-2/192350/2 "2019-07-26T05:33:37Z")
> [@esmattdawson](#):
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> In 6.5.4 this didn't happen, has something changed in 7.2?
Yes, Elasticsearch now [stops refreshing an index](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/breaking-changes-7.0.html#_skipped_background_refresh_on_search_idle_shards) if there are no searches happening, for more efficient indexing.
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### Author:  [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2019, 5:33am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/cat-indices-counts-not-updating-in7-2/192350/3 "2019-08-23T05:33:57Z")
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