# Change default elastic cluster password without x-pack?

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/change-default-elastic-cluster-password-without-x-pack/93228>\
**Category:** Elasticsearch\
**Created:** [July 14, 2017, 5:56pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/change-default-elastic-cluster-password-without-x-pack/93228 "2017-07-14T17:56:54Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
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**Author:** ![reswob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/reswob/32/38015_2.png) [@reswob](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/reswob)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 5:56pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/change-default-elastic-cluster-password-without-x-pack/93228/1 "2017-07-14T17:56:54Z")

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noob question here.

When using logstash to send data into the elastic cluster, the output section has entries for the elasticsearch cluster username and password.

According to this page, [https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/x-pack/current/security-getting-started.html](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/x-pack/current/security-getting-started.html), I need to install x-pack to change the default elastic password.

Is that true or is there a way to change that password without x-pack?

(weird politics may possibly prevent me from installing x-pack so I'm asking the question to ensure I have a good answer)

Thanks

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**Author:** ![Christian\_Dahlqvist](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/christian_dahlqvist/32/4617_2.png) [@Christian\_Dahlqvist](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Christian_Dahlqvist)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 6:19pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/change-default-elastic-cluster-password-without-x-pack/93228/2 "2017-07-14T18:19:45Z")

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Elasticsearch does in itself not have any security built in, so there is no password to change if you are not using X-Pack.

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**Author:** ![reswob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/reswob/32/38015_2.png) [@reswob](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/reswob)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 6:34pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/change-default-elastic-cluster-password-without-x-pack/93228/3 "2017-07-14T18:34:53Z")

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Thanks. That's what I thought, but I wanted confirmation.

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2017, 6:34pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/change-default-elastic-cluster-password-without-x-pack/93228/4 "2017-08-11T18:34:53Z")

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