# 'cluster:admin/xpack/monitoring/bulk' privilege for beats\_system

**URL:** https://discuss.elastic.co/t/cluster-admin-xpack-monitoring-bulk-privilege-for-beats-system/315753
**Category:** Elasticsearch
**Tags:** elastic-stack-monitoring
**Created:** [October 4, 2022, 9:03am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/cluster-admin-xpack-monitoring-bulk-privilege-for-beats-system/315753 "2022-10-04T09:03:57Z")
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### Author: ![NominaSumpta](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/nominasumpta/32/52412_2.png) [@NominaSumpta](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/NominaSumpta)
#### Post date: [October 4, 2022, 9:03am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/cluster-admin-xpack-monitoring-bulk-privilege-for-beats-system/315753/1 "2022-10-04T09:03:57Z")

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On my Elasticsearch 7.x cluster, the `beats_system` role has the cluster privileges `monitor` and `cluster:admin/xpack/monitoring/bulk`.

The `cluster:admin/xpack/monitoring/bulk` privilege is not mentioned on [Security privileges | Elasticsearch Guide [7.17] | Elastic](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/7.17/security-privileges.html). I did find the post [Privileges for built-in roles](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/privileges-for-built-in-roles/103792), which says:

> The bulk monitoring privilege is an action name.  
> It grants access to a specific internal action.

I looked for a list of 'actions' and 'internal actions' in the Elasticsearch documentation. It doesn't seem like there is a reference for them. I did not find any results in the REST APIs reference either.

Question: what is this 'internal action'?

FWIW: According to [Grant privileges and roles needed for monitoring | Filebeat Reference [7.17] | Elastic](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/beats/filebeat/7.17/privileges-to-publish-monitoring.html), a user-made role (as an alternative to using the built-in `beats_system` role) does NOT need to have this cluster privilege.

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### Author: ![matschaffer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/matschaffer/32/95396_2.png) [@matschaffer](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/matschaffer)
#### Post date: [October 13, 2022, 6:51am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/cluster-admin-xpack-monitoring-bulk-privilege-for-beats-system/315753/2 "2022-10-13T06:51:56Z")

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I believe the internal action being referred to here is the `/_monitoring/bulk` Elasticsearch endpoint used to deliver monitoring data from Elasticsearch internal collection.

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### Author: ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)
#### Post date: [November 10, 2022, 6:52am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/cluster-admin-xpack-monitoring-bulk-privilege-for-beats-system/315753/3 "2022-11-10T06:52:23Z")

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