# Commercial plugins

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/commercial-plugins/10075>\
**Category:** Elasticsearch\
**Created:** [December 14, 2012, 10:39am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/commercial-plugins/10075 "2012-12-14T10:39:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![Mathias\_Herberts](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/mathias_herberts/32/2574_2.png) [@Mathias\_Herberts](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Mathias_Herberts)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 10:39am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/commercial-plugins/10075/1 "2012-12-14T10:39:12Z")

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I know there are some commercial analyzers for Solr, is there such an  
ecosystem around Elastic Search, in the form of commercial pluging maybe?

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**Author:** ![otisg](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/otisg/32/492_2.png) [@otisg](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/otisg)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2012, 4:17am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/commercial-plugins/10075/2 "2012-12-15T04:17:43Z")

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Hey Mathias,

You again! 😉

I don't know of any commercial ES plugins.... yet. Looking to produce or  
consume?

## Otis

Performance Monitoring - [Sematext Monitoring | Infrastructure Monitoring Service](http://sematext.com/spm/index.html)  
Search Analytics - [Cloud Monitoring Tools & Services | Sematext](http://sematext.com/search-analytics/index.html)

On Friday, December 14, 2012 5:39:12 AM UTC-5, Mathias Herberts wrote:

> I know there are some commercial analyzers for Solr, is there such an  
> ecosystem around Elastic Search, in the form of commercial pluging maybe?

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**Author:** ![jprante](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/jprante/32/44941_2.png) [@jprante](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/jprante)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2012, 11:28am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/commercial-plugins/10075/3 "2012-12-15T11:28:49Z")

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To help all kinds of decent ES plugin provisioning, I started to develop a  
Maven repo based Elasticsearch Apps console tool.

The app tool is also targeted as a replacement to  
org.elasticsearch.plugins.PluginService and PluginManager, which is used in  
the tool bin/plugin

Note, there are some shortcomings of the zip plugins right now:

- there is no "plugin shop", you can not search for available plugins
- Java code in zip plugins can conflict with each other
- zip plugins can not be reused in other plugins, and zip plugins can not  
be shared by developers
- Elasticsearch does not expose plugin identifiers and versions via REST,  
so you can't find out what plugins are installed by third party tools
- there are no automatic plugin updates by versions, you have to remove old  
version manually and install the new version
- the current auto downloading of uploaded zips to github has been disabled  
by github because github wants to focus on git repo code only

By using the Maven repo infrastructure as a mechanism for ES plugins, most  
of the issues can be solved.

Vendors could provide their plugins in public or private repos, use Maven  
Central or not, and they can even reuse in their published plugins all  
other artifacts, just by pom.xml. So, ES apps will also be smaller than  
plugin zips.

Updates of all plugins to the lastest available version should be easy as  
"bin/apps -update" and a node restart 🙂

If you make a business out of this, commercial or not, it is all up to you  
🙂

You can follow my work on such an ES app tool  
at [https://github.com/jprante/elasticsearch-apps](https://github.com/jprante/elasticsearch-apps) - still experimental yet!

Cheers,

Jörg

On Saturday, December 15, 2012 5:17:43 AM UTC+1, Otis Gospodnetic wrote:

> Hey Mathias,
> 
> You again! 😉
> 
> I don't know of any commercial ES plugins.... yet. Looking to produce or  
> consume?
> 
> ## Otis
> 
> Performance Monitoring - [Sematext Monitoring | Infrastructure Monitoring Service](http://sematext.com/spm/index.html)  
> Search Analytics - [Cloud Monitoring Tools & Services | Sematext](http://sematext.com/search-analytics/index.html)
> 
> On Friday, December 14, 2012 5:39:12 AM UTC-5, Mathias Herberts wrote:
> 
> > I know there are some commercial analyzers for Solr, is there such an  
> > ecosystem around Elastic Search, in the form of commercial pluging maybe?

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**Author:** ![Lukas\_Vlcek1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/lukas_vlcek1/32/819_2.png) [@Lukas\_Vlcek1](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Lukas_Vlcek1)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2012, 12:09pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/commercial-plugins/10075/4 "2012-12-15T12:09:21Z")

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Jörg,

I think using Maven makes a lot of sense here.

We at JBoss build our own public Maven repository for enterprise platform  
(this initiative is known as JBoss Wolf project and it has been presented  
by Max Anderson on JBossWorld 2011 [1]). This allows developers to benefit  
from the fact that they can rely on official product releases but if they  
want they can use newer version of specific community technology (for  
example they target EAP6 [Enterprise Application Platform] but they want to  
use more recent community version of Hibernate which is not yet included in  
that particular product release).

And this is for benefit of both the business side and the community side.

From my POW you are on it 🙂

Regards,  
Lukas

[1]  
[http://www.redhat.com/summit/2011/presentations/jbossworld/decoding\_the\_code/wednesday/andersen\_w\_1020\_how\_to\_be\_effective\_with\_jboss\_developer\_studio.pdf](http://www.redhat.com/summit/2011/presentations/jbossworld/decoding_the_code/wednesday/andersen_w_1020_how_to_be_effective_with_jboss_developer_studio.pdf)

On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Jörg Prante [joergprante@gmail.com](mailto:joergprante@gmail.com) wrote:

> To help all kinds of decent ES plugin provisioning, I started to develop a  
> Maven repo based Elasticsearch Apps console tool.
> 
> The app tool is also targeted as a replacement to  
> org.elasticsearch.plugins.PluginService and PluginManager, which is used in  
> the tool bin/plugin
> 
> Note, there are some shortcomings of the zip plugins right now:
> 
> - there is no "plugin shop", you can not search for available plugins
> - Java code in zip plugins can conflict with each other
> - zip plugins can not be reused in other plugins, and zip plugins can not  
> be shared by developers
> - Elasticsearch does not expose plugin identifiers and versions via REST,  
> so you can't find out what plugins are installed by third party tools
> - there are no automatic plugin updates by versions, you have to remove  
> old version manually and install the new version
> - the current auto downloading of uploaded zips to github has been  
> disabled by github because github wants to focus on git repo code only
> 
> By using the Maven repo infrastructure as a mechanism for ES plugins, most  
> of the issues can be solved.
> 
> Vendors could provide their plugins in public or private repos, use Maven  
> Central or not, and they can even reuse in their published plugins all  
> other artifacts, just by pom.xml. So, ES apps will also be smaller than  
> plugin zips.
> 
> Updates of all plugins to the lastest available version should be easy as  
> "bin/apps -update" and a node restart 🙂
> 
> If you make a business out of this, commercial or not, it is all up to you  
> 🙂
> 
> You can follow my work on such an ES app tool at  
> [https://github.com/jprante/elasticsearch-apps](https://github.com/jprante/elasticsearch-apps) - still experimental yet!
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Jörg
> 
> On Saturday, December 15, 2012 5:17:43 AM UTC+1, Otis Gospodnetic wrote:
> 
> > Hey Mathias,
> > 
> > You again! 😉
> > 
> > I don't know of any commercial ES plugins.... yet. Looking to produce or  
> > consume?
> > 
> > ## Otis
> > 
> > Performance Monitoring - [Sematext Monitoring | Infrastructure Monitoring Service](http://sematext.com/spm/**index.html)[http://sematext.com/spm/index.html](http://sematext.com/spm/index.html)  
> > Search Analytics - [http://sematext.com/search-\*\*analytics/index.html](http://sematext.com/search-**analytics/index.html)[http://sematext.com/search-analytics/index.html](http://sematext.com/search-analytics/index.html)
> > 
> > On Friday, December 14, 2012 5:39:12 AM UTC-5, Mathias Herberts wrote:
> > 
> > > I know there are some commercial analyzers for Solr, is there such an  
> > > ecosystem around Elastic Search, in the form of commercial pluging maybe?
> > 
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**Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 2:59am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/commercial-plugins/10075/5 "2017-07-06T02:59:47Z")

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