# Conditions for external refreshes

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/conditions-for-external-refreshes/353803>\
**Category:** Elasticsearch\
**Created:** [February 21, 2024, 3:41pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/conditions-for-external-refreshes/353803 "2024-02-21T15:41:44Z")\
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**Author:** ![spinscale](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/spinscale/32/25011_2.png) [@spinscale](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/spinscale)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 3:41pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/conditions-for-external-refreshes/353803/1 "2024-02-21T15:41:44Z")

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Hey,

Elasticsearch has a metric for external refreshes in its RefreshStats, added in [#38643](https://github.com/elastic/elasticsearch/pull/38643), since 7.2.

I am wondering what can trigger such an external refresh, if all requests have `refresh=false` set.

Can a refresh be triggered and is called external if a lot of bulk requests are coming in, which in turn trigger an automatic refresh that is below the refresh interval threshold (5m in this case)?

This is on Elasticsearch 7.17.18.

Thanks for your help!

--Alex

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 3:42pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/conditions-for-external-refreshes/353803/2 "2024-03-20T15:42:37Z")

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