# Creating a second Elastic user
**URL:** https://discuss.elastic.co/t/creating-a-second-elastic-user/150920
**Category:** Elastic Cloud Enterprise (ECE)
**Created:** [October 3, 2018, 4:38pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/creating-a-second-elastic-user/150920 "2018-10-03T16:38:23Z")
**Posts on this page:** 8
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### Author:  [@mc1392](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/mc1392)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2018, 4:38pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/creating-a-second-elastic-user/150920/1 "2018-10-03T16:38:23Z")
Is it possible to create a second user, other than the initial user , named Elastic?
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### Author:  [@zanbel](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/zanbel)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2018, 6:05pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/creating-a-second-elastic-user/150920/2 "2018-10-03T18:05:47Z")
Hey @mc1392,
Yes. We offer the option to reset the password of the built-in `elastic` user directly from ECE interface, but this you can still navigate to the Management \>\> Users page in the relevant Kibana instance and create additional users, or do the same via the relevant Elasticsearch [REST api endpoints](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/security-api-users.html). You can also integrate with external IdPs such as [LDAP/AD](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/cloud-enterprise/2.0/ece-securing-clusters-LDAP.html), or [SAML](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/cloud-enterprise/2.0/ece-securing-clusters-SAML.html).
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### Author:  [@mc1392](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/mc1392)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2018, 6:32pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/creating-a-second-elastic-user/150920/3 "2018-10-03T18:32:14Z")
thank you!
Let me add more detail to my question:
I have a javascript developer using React, hence the username and password are clear text.
can I make one that only has READ access to a particular index?
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### Author:  [@bigdamhero](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/bigdamhero)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2018, 7:10pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/creating-a-second-elastic-user/150920/4 "2018-10-03T19:10:21Z")
You should be able to create an Elastic reader user.
This might be helpful - [https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/users-command.html](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/users-command.html)
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### Author:  [@mc1392](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/mc1392)
#### Post date: [October 4, 2018, 1:35pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/creating-a-second-elastic-user/150920/5 "2018-10-04T13:35:26Z")
I don't see how this addresses my issue.
I'm using the Cloud Service.
Maybe I need a better understanding of what the roles mean.
Is there a role that is synonymous with Read Only?
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### Author:  [@bigdamhero](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/bigdamhero)
#### Post date: [October 4, 2018, 1:48pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/creating-a-second-elastic-user/150920/6 "2018-10-04T13:48:15Z")
I actually noticed that you were Cloud after I posted it. Just trying to be helpful. You should be able to look over the default permission groups and choose one. I know one that I had to create was called Logstash\_reader. Perhaps there is an Elasticsearch reader function you could add to an ID you create? Hope this is helpful.
Cheers
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### Author:  [@mc1392](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/mc1392)
#### Post date: [October 4, 2018, 1:51pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/creating-a-second-elastic-user/150920/7 "2018-10-04T13:51:08Z")
after looking a bit more, I do see a 'read' level permission.
Not sure how I missed that.
Thanks for the help.
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### Author:  [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)
#### Post date: [October 18, 2018, 1:51pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/creating-a-second-elastic-user/150920/8 "2018-10-18T13:51:19Z")
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