# Creating \_all index pattern in Kibana

**URL:** https://discuss.elastic.co/t/creating-all-index-pattern-in-kibana/139967
**Category:** Kibana
**Created:** [July 13, 2018, 2:52pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/creating-all-index-pattern-in-kibana/139967 "2018-07-13T14:52:58Z")
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### Author: ![amruth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/43a26b/32.png) [@amruth](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/amruth)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2018, 2:52pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/creating-all-index-pattern-in-kibana/139967/1 "2018-07-13T14:52:58Z")

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Hi,

I've created \_all index pattern in kibana to search for logs across indexes.

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1) So, creating _all index pattern would take extra disk space on ES nodes? 
2) And is it a good idea to create such index? 

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Please let me know if there are any underlying issues which could effect performance.

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### Author: ![chrisronline](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/chrisronline/32/28230_2.png) [@chrisronline](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/chrisronline)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2018, 1:15pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/creating-all-index-pattern-in-kibana/139967/2 "2018-07-17T13:15:14Z")

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Hi @amruth,

What do you mean exactly? Do you mean you created indices within ES with the [\_all mapping field enabled](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/mapping-all-field.html)

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### Author: ![amruth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/43a26b/32.png) [@amruth](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/amruth)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2018, 1:36pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/creating-all-index-pattern-in-kibana/139967/3 "2018-07-17T13:36:08Z")

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Hi Chris,

I am creating an index pattern in kibana(not in ES)

Thanks

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### Author: ![chrisronline](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/chrisronline/32/28230_2.png) [@chrisronline](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/chrisronline)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2018, 2:22pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/creating-all-index-pattern-in-kibana/139967/4 "2018-07-17T14:22:31Z")

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How are you doing that exactly? As far as I'm aware, we do not have a concept of `_all` within Kibana itself - that concept is something that resides within ES.

Can you share some screenshots of what you have within Kibana?

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### Author: ![amruth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/43a26b/32.png) [@amruth](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/amruth)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2018, 3:09pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/creating-all-index-pattern-in-kibana/139967/5 "2018-07-17T15:09:38Z")

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![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/5/7/57aec0928fa2ce4f487352f01ced310ee10aa734.png)

Please refer [this](https://stackoverflow.com/questions/29671773/query-two-indexes-simultaneously-in-kibana-4)

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### Author: ![chrisronline](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/chrisronline/32/28230_2.png) [@chrisronline](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/chrisronline)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2018, 6:14pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/creating-all-index-pattern-in-kibana/139967/6 "2018-07-17T18:14:28Z")

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Ah, I'd definitely recommend against that if you're using this for a production environment. It will affect Kibana and ES performance - any visualization/dashboard you load against this index pattern means that Kibana and ES both need to read/process every single index which can easily get out of control.

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### Author: ![amruth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/43a26b/32.png) [@amruth](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/amruth)
#### Post date: [July 23, 2018, 3:34pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/creating-all-index-pattern-in-kibana/139967/7 "2018-07-23T15:34:19Z")

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Got you. Thanks Chris 🙂

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### Author: ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)
#### Post date: [August 20, 2018, 3:34pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/creating-all-index-pattern-in-kibana/139967/8 "2018-08-20T15:34:24Z")

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