# Dealing with spam in this forum **URL:** \ **Category:** Elasticsearch\ **Created:** [July 1, 2014, 6:36pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/dealing-with-spam-in-this-forum/18422 "2014-07-01T18:36:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Clinton\_Gormley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/50afbb/32.png) [@Clinton\_Gormley](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Clinton_Gormley)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2014, 6:36pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/dealing-with-spam-in-this-forum/18422/1 "2014-07-01T18:36:44Z")
Hi all Recently we've had a few spam emails that have made it through Google's filters, and there have been a calls for us to change to a moderate-first-post policy. I am reluctant to adopt this policy for the following reasons: We get about 30 new users every day from all over the world, many of whom are early in their learning phase and are quite stuck - they need help as soon as possible. Fortunately this list is very active and helpful. In contrast, we've only ever banned 34 users from the list for spamming. So making new users wait for timezones to swing their way feels like a heavy handed solution to a small problem. Yes, spammers are annoying but they are a small minority on this list. Instead, we have asked 10 of our long standing members to help us with banning spammers. This way we have Spam Guardians active around the globe, who only need to do something if a spammer raises their ugly head above the parapet. One or two spam emails may get through, but hopefully somebody will leap into action and stop their activity before it becomes too tiresome. This isn't an exclusive list. If you would like to be on it, feel free to email me. Note: I expect you to be a long standing and currently active member of this list to be included. If this solution doesn't solve the problem, then we can reconsider moderate-first-post, but we've managed to go 5 years without requiring it, and I'd prefer to keep things as easy as possible for new users. Clint -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/c9af5a09-0295-42e3-bc20-52471828aa96%40googlegroups.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/c9af5a09-0295-42e3-bc20-52471828aa96%40googlegroups.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/d/optout](https://groups.google.com/d/optout). ---
**Author:** ![Glen\_Smith](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/glen_smith/32/111656_2.png) [@Glen\_Smith](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Glen_Smith)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2014, 8:02pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/dealing-with-spam-in-this-forum/18422/2 "2014-07-01T20:02:44Z")
Can you make this post "sticky"? On Tuesday, July 1, 2014 2:36:44 PM UTC-4, Clinton Gormley wrote: > Hi all > > Recently we've had a few spam emails that have made it through Google's > filters, and there have been a calls for us to change to a > moderate-first-post policy. I am reluctant to adopt this policy for the > following reasons: > > We get about 30 new users every day from all over the world, many of whom > are early in their learning phase and are quite stuck - they need help as > soon as possible. Fortunately this list is very active and helpful. In > contrast, we've only ever banned 34 users from the list for spamming. So > making new users wait for timezones to swing their way feels like a heavy > handed solution to a small problem. Yes, spammers are annoying but they are > a small minority on this list. > > Instead, we have asked 10 of our long standing members to help us with > banning spammers. This way we have Spam Guardians active around the globe, > who only need to do something if a spammer raises their ugly head above the > parapet. One or two spam emails may get through, but hopefully somebody > will leap into action and stop their activity before it becomes too > tiresome. > > This isn't an exclusive list. If you would like to be on it, feel free to > email me. Note: I expect you to be a long standing and currently active > member of this list to be included. > > If this solution doesn't solve the problem, then we can reconsider > moderate-first-post, but we've managed to go 5 years without requiring it, > and I'd prefer to keep things as easy as possible for new users. > > Clint -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/afc6984b-7473-4ac2-8e7c-214882143ec3%40googlegroups.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/afc6984b-7473-4ac2-8e7c-214882143ec3%40googlegroups.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/d/optout](https://groups.google.com/d/optout). ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_Brown](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/paul_brown/32/1449_2.png) [@Paul\_Brown](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Paul_Brown)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2014, 6:18am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/dealing-with-spam-in-this-forum/18422/3 "2014-07-02T06:18:42Z")
Hi, Clinton -- May I suggest: - Some users (e.g., me) who read this list via an email subscription regard ANY spam on the list as an unacceptable state of affairs. This is not a problem with Apache lists, for example, so I would point the finger of blame at Google Groups. - Having N longstanding members who are willing to help ban spammers is equivalent to having N longstanding members who are willing to quickly admit new users. (And you're welcome to add me as N+1.) - Banning is ineffective. Spammers will continuously sign up with new accounts. -- Paul โ€” [prb@mult.ifario.us](mailto:prb@mult.ifario.us) | Multifarious, Inc. | [http://mult.ifario.us/](http://mult.ifario.us/) On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Clinton Gormley \< [clinton.gormley@elasticsearch.com](mailto:clinton.gormley@elasticsearch.com)\> wrote: > Hi all > > Recently we've had a few spam emails that have made it through Google's > filters, and there have been a calls for us to change to a > moderate-first-post policy. I am reluctant to adopt this policy for the > following reasons: > > We get about 30 new users every day from all over the world, many of whom > are early in their learning phase and are quite stuck - they need help as > soon as possible. Fortunately this list is very active and helpful. In > contrast, we've only ever banned 34 users from the list for spamming. So > making new users wait for timezones to swing their way feels like a heavy > handed solution to a small problem. Yes, spammers are annoying but they are > a small minority on this list. > > Instead, we have asked 10 of our long standing members to help us with > banning spammers. This way we have Spam Guardians active around the globe, > who only need to do something if a spammer raises their ugly head above the > parapet. One or two spam emails may get through, but hopefully somebody > will leap into action and stop their activity before it becomes too > tiresome. > > This isn't an exclusive list. If you would like to be on it, feel free to > email me. Note: I expect you to be a long standing and currently active > member of this list to be included. > > If this solution doesn't solve the problem, then we can reconsider > moderate-first-post, but we've managed to go 5 years without requiring it, > and I'd prefer to keep things as easy as possible for new users. > > Clint > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "elasticsearch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). > To view this discussion on the web visit > [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/c9af5a09-0295-42e3-bc20-52471828aa96%40googlegroups.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/c9af5a09-0295-42e3-bc20-52471828aa96%40googlegroups.com) > [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/c9af5a09-0295-42e3-bc20-52471828aa96%40googlegroups.com?utm\_medium=email&utm\_source=footer](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/c9af5a09-0295-42e3-bc20-52471828aa96%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer) > . > For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/d/optout](https://groups.google.com/d/optout). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CACArsZ\_92BQQSdLgYjKU2PsoQO5%2BFyFafyrFZTyeY720xGgMww%40mail.gmail.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CACArsZ_92BQQSdLgYjKU2PsoQO5%2BFyFafyrFZTyeY720xGgMww%40mail.gmail.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/d/optout](https://groups.google.com/d/optout). ---
**Author:** ![Patrick\_Proniewski](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/96bed5/32.png) [@Patrick\_Proniewski](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Patrick_Proniewski)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2014, 7:10am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/dealing-with-spam-in-this-forum/18422/4 "2014-07-02T07:10:54Z")
Hi, I do agree with Paul, 200%. I've received in my mailbox at least 49 spams just for the 06/30. I won't call this "a few spam email". I'm subscribed for years on many mailing lists, and I'm pretty sure that it would take years to get as much spam on those lists as I get in 1 day on ES mailing list. On 2 juil. 2014, at 08:18, Paul Brown [prb@mult.ifario.us](mailto:prb@mult.ifario.us) wrote: > Hi, Clinton -- > > May I suggest: > > - Some users (e.g., me) who read this list via an email subscription regard > ANY spam on the list as an unacceptable state of affairs. This is not a > problem with Apache lists, for example, so I would point the finger of > blame at Google Groups. > > - Having N longstanding members who are willing to help ban spammers is > equivalent to having N longstanding members who are willing to quickly > admit new users. (And you're welcome to add me as N+1.) > > - Banning is ineffective. Spammers will continuously sign up with new > accounts. > > -- Paul > > -- > [prb@mult.ifario.us](mailto:prb@mult.ifario.us) | Multifarious, Inc. | [http://mult.ifario.us/](http://mult.ifario.us/) > > On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Clinton Gormley \< > [clinton.gormley@elasticsearch.com](mailto:clinton.gormley@elasticsearch.com)\> wrote: > > > Hi all > > > > Recently we've had a few spam emails that have made it through Google's > > filters, and there have been a calls for us to change to a > > moderate-first-post policy. I am reluctant to adopt this policy for the > > following reasons: > > > > We get about 30 new users every day from all over the world, many of whom > > are early in their learning phase and are quite stuck - they need help as > > soon as possible. Fortunately this list is very active and helpful. In > > contrast, we've only ever banned 34 users from the list for spamming. So > > making new users wait for timezones to swing their way feels like a heavy > > handed solution to a small problem. Yes, spammers are annoying but they are > > a small minority on this list. > > > > Instead, we have asked 10 of our long standing members to help us with > > banning spammers. This way we have Spam Guardians active around the globe, > > who only need to do something if a spammer raises their ugly head above the > > parapet. One or two spam emails may get through, but hopefully somebody > > will leap into action and stop their activity before it becomes too > > tiresome. > > > > This isn't an exclusive list. If you would like to be on it, feel free to > > email me. Note: I expect you to be a long standing and currently active > > member of this list to be included. > > > > If this solution doesn't solve the problem, then we can reconsider > > moderate-first-post, but we've managed to go 5 years without requiring it, > > and I'd prefer to keep things as easy as possible for new users. > > > > Clint -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/37AE06FE-1DB5-4CCE-A90B-4B2E61234E9A%40patpro.net](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/37AE06FE-1DB5-4CCE-A90B-4B2E61234E9A%40patpro.net). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/d/optout](https://groups.google.com/d/optout). ---
**Author:** ![Clinton\_Gormley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/50afbb/32.png) [@Clinton\_Gormley](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Clinton_Gormley)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2014, 10:34am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/dealing-with-spam-in-this-forum/18422/5 "2014-07-02T10:34:05Z")
> I've received in my mailbox at least 49 spams just for the 06/30. I won't > call this "a few spam email". I'm subscribed for years on many mailing > lists, and I'm pretty sure that it would take years to get as much spam on > those lists as I get in 1 day on ES mailing list. That's interesting... I'd only seen three spam emails, so I wondered where you got 49 from. I read the posts from my gmail account, so then I checked my spam folder and sure enough there were a lot more emails in there that I was unaware of. I'm going to disable my spam filter for this group so that I get more visibility, and I'd ask other moderators to do the same. Let's see how it goes for a while longer. We can always revisit this decision later on. clint > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/8e790230-b81f-416b-b7b8-ef1589fb399c%40googlegroups.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/8e790230-b81f-416b-b7b8-ef1589fb399c%40googlegroups.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/d/optout](https://groups.google.com/d/optout). ---
**Author:** ![mooky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/43a26b/32.png) [@mooky](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/mooky)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2014, 12:52pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/dealing-with-spam-in-this-forum/18422/6 "2014-07-02T12:52:04Z")
I fall on the side of caring less about spam emails (since I have decent spam filter on my email) and would rate easy access to the group much higher. I tend to add/remove myself from groups all the time - so adding a delay to adding myself to a group with be a big PITA for me. -M On Wednesday, 2 July 2014 11:34:05 UTC+1, Clinton Gormley wrote: > I've received in my mailbox at least 49 spams just for the 06/30. I won't > > > call this "a few spam email". I'm subscribed for years on many mailing > > lists, and I'm pretty sure that it would take years to get as much spam on > > those lists as I get in 1 day on ES mailing list. > > That's interesting... I'd only seen three spam emails, so I wondered where > you got 49 from. I read the posts from my gmail account, so then I checked > my spam folder and sure enough there were a lot more emails in there that I > was unaware of. > > I'm going to disable my spam filter for this group so that I get more > visibility, and I'd ask other moderators to do the same. > > Let's see how it goes for a while longer. We can always revisit this > decision later on. > > clint > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/1c6d4d20-3bab-4063-997d-b3407355c955%40googlegroups.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/1c6d4d20-3bab-4063-997d-b3407355c955%40googlegroups.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/d/optout](https://groups.google.com/d/optout). ---
**Author:** ![jackpark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5f8ce5/32.png) [@jackpark](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/jackpark)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2014, 1:21pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/dealing-with-spam-in-this-forum/18422/7 "2014-07-02T13:21:19Z")
The behavior in my gmail-operated spam filter has been to toss out lots of emails from this list as false positives. So, I keep sending them back to my in box; pretty soon, gmail asks me to forward the good ones to them to study, so I do. The result of that is that they catch NONE of those spams. They also don't put enough information in the header to allow me to see if all those spams come from the same IP address. Otherwise, it might be possible for the group list to block certain IP addresses. On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 3:34 AM, Clinton Gormley [clint@traveljury.com](mailto:clint@traveljury.com) wrote: > > I've received in my mailbox at least 49 spams just for the 06/30. I won't > > call this "a few spam email". I'm subscribed for years on many mailing > > lists, and I'm pretty sure that it would take years to get as much spam on > > those lists as I get in 1 day on ES mailing list. > > That's interesting... I'd only seen three spam emails, so I wondered where > you got 49 from. I read the posts from my gmail account, so then I checked > my spam folder and sure enough there were a lot more emails in there that I > was unaware of. > > I'm going to disable my spam filter for this group so that I get more > visibility, and I'd ask other moderators to do the same. > > Let's see how it goes for a while longer. We can always revisit this > decision later on. > > clint > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "elasticsearch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). > To view this discussion on the web visit > [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/8e790230-b81f-416b-b7b8-ef1589fb399c%40googlegroups.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/8e790230-b81f-416b-b7b8-ef1589fb399c%40googlegroups.com). > > For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/d/optout](https://groups.google.com/d/optout). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAH6s0fzpS%2BPdFjLq5-zuCoDJxTXyzrZ3mxOikrYpCh5erwMJAA%40mail.gmail.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAH6s0fzpS%2BPdFjLq5-zuCoDJxTXyzrZ3mxOikrYpCh5erwMJAA%40mail.gmail.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/d/optout](https://groups.google.com/d/optout). ---
**Author:** ![Sudhakar\_Chokkalinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Sudhakar\_Chokkalinga](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Sudhakar_Chokkalinga)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2014, 6:01pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/dealing-with-spam-in-this-forum/18422/8 "2014-07-24T18:01:32Z")
One help, i am new user to Elasticsearch ..like to know the recommended java version for the Elasticsearch 1.1.0 On Tuesday, July 1, 2014 1:36:44 PM UTC-5, Clinton Gormley wrote: > Hi all > > Recently we've had a few spam emails that have made it through Google's > filters, and there have been a calls for us to change to a > moderate-first-post policy. I am reluctant to adopt this policy for the > following reasons: > > We get about 30 new users every day from all over the world, many of whom > are early in their learning phase and are quite stuck - they need help as > soon as possible. Fortunately this list is very active and helpful. In > contrast, we've only ever banned 34 users from the list for spamming. So > making new users wait for timezones to swing their way feels like a heavy > handed solution to a small problem. Yes, spammers are annoying but they are > a small minority on this list. > > Instead, we have asked 10 of our long standing members to help us with > banning spammers. This way we have Spam Guardians active around the globe, > who only need to do something if a spammer raises their ugly head above the > parapet. One or two spam emails may get through, but hopefully somebody > will leap into action and stop their activity before it becomes too > tiresome. > > This isn't an exclusive list. If you would like to be on it, feel free to > email me. Note: I expect you to be a long standing and currently active > member of this list to be included. > > If this solution doesn't solve the problem, then we can reconsider > moderate-first-post, but we've managed to go 5 years without requiring it, > and I'd prefer to keep things as easy as possible for new users. > > Clint -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/f02c850f-1601-400c-be9d-fd6a5472885b%40googlegroups.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/f02c850f-1601-400c-be9d-fd6a5472885b%40googlegroups.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/d/optout](https://groups.google.com/d/optout). ---
**Author:** ![warkolm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/warkolm/32/39224_2.png) [@warkolm](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/warkolm)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2014, 9:30pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/dealing-with-spam-in-this-forum/18422/9 "2014-07-24T21:30:12Z")
You're better off starting a new thread around this ๐Ÿ™‚ (But take a look here > **[Elasticsearch Platform โ€” Find real-time answers at scale](https://www.elastic.co)** > > Power insights and outcomes with the Elasticsearch Platform and AI. See into your data and find answers that matter with enterprise solutions designed to help you build, observe, and protect. Try Elasticsearch free today. ) Regards, Mark Walkom Infrastructure Engineer Campaign Monitor email: [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com) web: [www.campaignmonitor.com](http://www.campaignmonitor.com) On 25 July 2014 04:01, Sudhakar Chokkalingam [kcs.sudhakar@gmail.com](mailto:kcs.sudhakar@gmail.com) wrote: > One help, i am new user to Elasticsearch ..like to know the recommended > java version for the Elasticsearch 1.1.0 > > On Tuesday, July 1, 2014 1:36:44 PM UTC-5, Clinton Gormley wrote: > > > Hi all > > > > Recently we've had a few spam emails that have made it through Google's > > filters, and there have been a calls for us to change to a > > moderate-first-post policy. I am reluctant to adopt this policy for the > > following reasons: > > > > We get about 30 new users every day from all over the world, many of whom > > are early in their learning phase and are quite stuck - they need help as > > soon as possible. Fortunately this list is very active and helpful. In > > contrast, we've only ever banned 34 users from the list for spamming. So > > making new users wait for timezones to swing their way feels like a heavy > > handed solution to a small problem. Yes, spammers are annoying but they are > > a small minority on this list. > > > > Instead, we have asked 10 of our long standing members to help us with > > banning spammers. This way we have Spam Guardians active around the globe, > > who only need to do something if a spammer raises their ugly head above the > > parapet. One or two spam emails may get through, but hopefully somebody > > will leap into action and stop their activity before it becomes too > > tiresome. > > > > This isn't an exclusive list. If you would like to be on it, feel free to > > email me. Note: I expect you to be a long standing and currently active > > member of this list to be included. > > > > If this solution doesn't solve the problem, then we can reconsider > > moderate-first-post, but we've managed to go 5 years without requiring it, > > and I'd prefer to keep things as easy as possible for new users. > > > > Clint > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "elasticsearch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). > To view this discussion on the web visit > [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/f02c850f-1601-400c-be9d-fd6a5472885b%40googlegroups.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/f02c850f-1601-400c-be9d-fd6a5472885b%40googlegroups.com) > [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/f02c850f-1601-400c-be9d-fd6a5472885b%40googlegroups.com?utm\_medium=email&utm\_source=footer](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/f02c850f-1601-400c-be9d-fd6a5472885b%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer) > . > For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/d/optout](https://groups.google.com/d/optout). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAEM624ZUDOpS-M%2Bi7Y-WZ\_BCmgSGLq-Dgta-MP0NLeTNncDvGQ%40mail.gmail.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAEM624ZUDOpS-M%2Bi7Y-WZ_BCmgSGLq-Dgta-MP0NLeTNncDvGQ%40mail.gmail.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/d/optout](https://groups.google.com/d/optout). ---
**Author:** ![Ivan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/df788c/32.png) [@Ivan](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Ivan)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2014, 6:54pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/dealing-with-spam-in-this-forum/18422/10 "2014-08-01T18:54:17Z")
I just deleted a couple of non-related job postings and banned the poster. Going forward, is there a consensus among the community about whether or not job postings should be allowed? I do not mind postings that come directly from companies, especially those whose existing developers are already part of the community. Recruiters on the other hand perhaps should not allowed. Of course, the job postings must be Elasticsearch related, and not simply a buzzword in the overall tech stack. This mailing list has not seen any yet, but they will appear eventually. Thoughts? Ivan On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Mark Walkom [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com) wrote: > You're better off starting a new thread around this ๐Ÿ™‚ > > (But take a look here > [Elasticsearch Platform โ€” Find real-time answers at scale | Elastic](http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/setup.html) > ) > > Regards, > Mark Walkom > > Infrastructure Engineer > Campaign Monitor > email: [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com) > web: [www.campaignmonitor.com](http://www.campaignmonitor.com) > > On 25 July 2014 04:01, Sudhakar Chokkalingam [kcs.sudhakar@gmail.com](mailto:kcs.sudhakar@gmail.com) > wrote: > > > One help, i am new user to Elasticsearch ..like to know the recommended > > java version for the Elasticsearch 1.1.0 > > > > On Tuesday, July 1, 2014 1:36:44 PM UTC-5, Clinton Gormley wrote: > > > > > Hi all > > > > > > Recently we've had a few spam emails that have made it through Google's > > > filters, and there have been a calls for us to change to a > > > moderate-first-post policy. I am reluctant to adopt this policy for the > > > following reasons: > > > > > > We get about 30 new users every day from all over the world, many of > > > whom are early in their learning phase and are quite stuck - they need help > > > as soon as possible. Fortunately this list is very active and helpful. In > > > contrast, we've only ever banned 34 users from the list for spamming. So > > > making new users wait for timezones to swing their way feels like a heavy > > > handed solution to a small problem. Yes, spammers are annoying but they are > > > a small minority on this list. > > > > > > Instead, we have asked 10 of our long standing members to help us with > > > banning spammers. This way we have Spam Guardians active around the globe, > > > who only need to do something if a spammer raises their ugly head above the > > > parapet. One or two spam emails may get through, but hopefully somebody > > > will leap into action and stop their activity before it becomes too > > > tiresome. > > > > > > This isn't an exclusive list. If you would like to be on it, feel free > > > to email me. Note: I expect you to be a long standing and currently active > > > member of this list to be included. > > > > > > If this solution doesn't solve the problem, then we can reconsider > > > moderate-first-post, but we've managed to go 5 years without requiring it, > > > and I'd prefer to keep things as easy as possible for new users. > > > > > > Clint > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "elasticsearch" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/f02c850f-1601-400c-be9d-fd6a5472885b%40googlegroups.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/f02c850f-1601-400c-be9d-fd6a5472885b%40googlegroups.com) > > [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/f02c850f-1601-400c-be9d-fd6a5472885b%40googlegroups.com?utm\_medium=email&utm\_source=footer](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/f02c850f-1601-400c-be9d-fd6a5472885b%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer) > > . > > For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/d/optout](https://groups.google.com/d/optout). > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "elasticsearch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). > To view this discussion on the web visit > [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAEM624ZUDOpS-M%2Bi7Y-WZ\_BCmgSGLq-Dgta-MP0NLeTNncDvGQ%40mail.gmail.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAEM624ZUDOpS-M%2Bi7Y-WZ_BCmgSGLq-Dgta-MP0NLeTNncDvGQ%40mail.gmail.com) > [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAEM624ZUDOpS-M%2Bi7Y-WZ\_BCmgSGLq-Dgta-MP0NLeTNncDvGQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm\_medium=email&utm\_source=footer](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAEM624ZUDOpS-M%2Bi7Y-WZ_BCmgSGLq-Dgta-MP0NLeTNncDvGQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer) > . > > For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/d/optout](https://groups.google.com/d/optout). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. 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**Author:** ![Lukas\_Vlcek1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/lukas_vlcek1/32/819_2.png) [@Lukas\_Vlcek1](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Lukas_Vlcek1)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2014, 7:05pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/dealing-with-spam-in-this-forum/18422/11 "2014-08-01T19:05:17Z")
Ivan, I would not care much if the frequency is low but I think Elasticsearch Linkedin group ( [Sign Up | LinkedIn](https://www.linkedin.com/groups?home=&gid=3393294&trk=anet_ug_hm)) could be more logical target for job postings. Lukas On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 8:54 PM, Ivan Brusic [ivan@brusic.com](mailto:ivan@brusic.com) wrote: > I just deleted a couple of non-related job postings and banned the poster. > > Going forward, is there a consensus among the community about whether or > not job postings should be allowed? I do not mind postings that come > directly from companies, especially those whose existing developers are > already part of the community. Recruiters on the other hand perhaps should > not allowed. Of course, the job postings must be Elasticsearch related, and > not simply a buzzword in the overall tech stack. > > This mailing list has not seen any yet, but they will appear eventually. > > Thoughts? > > Ivan > > On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Mark Walkom [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com) > wrote: > > > You're better off starting a new thread around this ๐Ÿ™‚ > > > > (But take a look here > > [Elasticsearch Platform โ€” Find real-time answers at scale | Elastic](http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/setup.html) > > ) > > > > Regards, > > Mark Walkom > > > > Infrastructure Engineer > > Campaign Monitor > > email: [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com) > > web: [www.campaignmonitor.com](http://www.campaignmonitor.com) > > > > On 25 July 2014 04:01, Sudhakar Chokkalingam [kcs.sudhakar@gmail.com](mailto:kcs.sudhakar@gmail.com) > > wrote: > > > > > One help, i am new user to Elasticsearch ..like to know the recommended > > > java version for the Elasticsearch 1.1.0 > > > > > > On Tuesday, July 1, 2014 1:36:44 PM UTC-5, Clinton Gormley wrote: > > > > > > > Hi all > > > > > > > > Recently we've had a few spam emails that have made it through Google's > > > > filters, and there have been a calls for us to change to a > > > > moderate-first-post policy. I am reluctant to adopt this policy for the > > > > following reasons: > > > > > > > > We get about 30 new users every day from all over the world, many of > > > > whom are early in their learning phase and are quite stuck - they need help > > > > as soon as possible. Fortunately this list is very active and helpful. In > > > > contrast, we've only ever banned 34 users from the list for spamming. So > > > > making new users wait for timezones to swing their way feels like a heavy > > > > handed solution to a small problem. Yes, spammers are annoying but they are > > > > a small minority on this list. > > > > > > > > Instead, we have asked 10 of our long standing members to help us with > > > > banning spammers. This way we have Spam Guardians active around the globe, > > > > who only need to do something if a spammer raises their ugly head above the > > > > parapet. One or two spam emails may get through, but hopefully somebody > > > > will leap into action and stop their activity before it becomes too > > > > tiresome. > > > > > > > > This isn't an exclusive list. If you would like to be on it, feel free > > > > to email me. 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**Author:** ![warkolm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/warkolm/32/39224_2.png) [@warkolm](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/warkolm)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2014, 10:48pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/dealing-with-spam-in-this-forum/18422/12 "2014-08-01T22:48:02Z")
I agree with Ivan and Lukas, though recruiters with ES related jobs should be ok as long as it's not a generic BCC like the ones Ivan deleted. Regards, Mark Walkom Infrastructure Engineer Campaign Monitor email: [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com) web: [www.campaignmonitor.com](http://www.campaignmonitor.com) On 2 August 2014 05:05, Lukรกลก Vlฤek [lukas.vlcek@gmail.com](mailto:lukas.vlcek@gmail.com) wrote: > Ivan, > > I would not care much if the frequency is low but I think Elasticsearch > Linkedin group ( > [Sign Up | LinkedIn](https://www.linkedin.com/groups?home=&gid=3393294&trk=anet_ug_hm)) could > be more logical target for job postings. > > Lukas > > On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 8:54 PM, Ivan Brusic [ivan@brusic.com](mailto:ivan@brusic.com) wrote: > > > I just deleted a couple of non-related job postings and banned the poster. > > > > Going forward, is there a consensus among the community about whether or > > not job postings should be allowed? I do not mind postings that come > > directly from companies, especially those whose existing developers are > > already part of the community. Recruiters on the other hand perhaps should > > not allowed. Of course, the job postings must be Elasticsearch related, and > > not simply a buzzword in the overall tech stack. > > > > This mailing list has not seen any yet, but they will appear eventually. > > > > Thoughts? > > > > Ivan > > > > On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Mark Walkom [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com) > > wrote: > > > > > You're better off starting a new thread around this ๐Ÿ™‚ > > > > > > (But take a look here > > > [Elasticsearch Platform โ€” Find real-time answers at scale | Elastic](http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/setup.html) > > > ) > > > > > > Regards, > > > Mark Walkom > > > > > > Infrastructure Engineer > > > Campaign Monitor > > > email: [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com) > > > web: [www.campaignmonitor.com](http://www.campaignmonitor.com) > > > > > > On 25 July 2014 04:01, Sudhakar Chokkalingam [kcs.sudhakar@gmail.com](mailto:kcs.sudhakar@gmail.com) > > > wrote: > > > > > > > One help, i am new user to Elasticsearch ..like to know the > > > > recommended java version for the Elasticsearch 1.1.0 > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, July 1, 2014 1:36:44 PM UTC-5, Clinton Gormley wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi all > > > > > > > > > > Recently we've had a few spam emails that have made it through > > > > > Google's filters, and there have been a calls for us to change to a > > > > > moderate-first-post policy. I am reluctant to adopt this policy for the > > > > > following reasons: > > > > > > > > > > We get about 30 new users every day from all over the world, many of > > > > > whom are early in their learning phase and are quite stuck - they need help > > > > > as soon as possible. Fortunately this list is very active and helpful. In > > > > > contrast, we've only ever banned 34 users from the list for spamming. So > > > > > making new users wait for timezones to swing their way feels like a heavy > > > > > handed solution to a small problem. Yes, spammers are annoying but they are > > > > > a small minority on this list. > > > > > > > > > > Instead, we have asked 10 of our long standing members to help us with > > > > > banning spammers. This way we have Spam Guardians active around the globe, > > > > > who only need to do something if a spammer raises their ugly head above the > > > > > parapet. One or two spam emails may get through, but hopefully somebody > > > > > will leap into action and stop their activity before it becomes too > > > > > tiresome. > > > > > > > > > > This isn't an exclusive list. If you would like to be on it, feel free > > > > > to email me. 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**Author:** ![nodexy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/nodexy/32/1064_2.png) [@nodexy](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/nodexy)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2014, 9:56am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/dealing-with-spam-in-this-forum/18422/13 "2014-12-02T09:56:54Z")
The first post should be approved . On Wednesday, July 2, 2014 2:36:44 AM UTC+8, Clinton Gormley wrote: > Hi all > > Recently we've had a few spam emails that have made it through Google's > filters, and there have been a calls for us to change to a > moderate-first-post policy. I am reluctant to adopt this policy for the > following reasons: > > We get about 30 new users every day from all over the world, many of whom > are early in their learning phase and are quite stuck - they need help as > soon as possible. Fortunately this list is very active and helpful. In > contrast, we've only ever banned 34 users from the list for spamming. So > making new users wait for timezones to swing their way feels like a heavy > handed solution to a small problem. Yes, spammers are annoying but they are > a small minority on this list. > > Instead, we have asked 10 of our long standing members to help us with > banning spammers. This way we have Spam Guardians active around the globe, > who only need to do something if a spammer raises their ugly head above the > parapet. One or two spam emails may get through, but hopefully somebody > will leap into action and stop their activity before it becomes too > tiresome. > > This isn't an exclusive list. If you would like to be on it, feel free to > email me. Note: I expect you to be a long standing and currently active > member of this list to be included. > > If this solution doesn't solve the problem, then we can reconsider > moderate-first-post, but we've managed to go 5 years without requiring it, > and I'd prefer to keep things as easy as possible for new users. > > Clint -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/10ea16ea-3e97-4920-8061-8eb5f582394e%40googlegroups.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/10ea16ea-3e97-4920-8061-8eb5f582394e%40googlegroups.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/d/optout](https://groups.google.com/d/optout). ---
**Author:** ![Gavin\_Seng](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e56c9b/32.png) [@Gavin\_Seng](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Gavin_Seng)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2015, 8:44pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/dealing-with-spam-in-this-forum/18422/14 "2015-03-12T20:44:44Z")
Hi, What is the current policy on this? I just tried creating 2 new posts ... they showed up for awhile ... and then disappeared. I thought that it could be because I did inline pictures ... so I tried reposting and got the same result. Not sure if they're in a "to be moderated" bucket ... or googles spam filter just deleted them. The posts had these subjects: - What is a reasonable number of evictions for filter\_cache and fielddata? - Are long queues in management threadpool a problem? Thanks, Gavin On Tuesday, December 2, 2014 at 4:56:54 AM UTC-5, nodexy wrote: > The first post should be approved . > > On Wednesday, July 2, 2014 2:36:44 AM UTC+8, Clinton Gormley wrote: > > > Hi all > > > > Recently we've had a few spam emails that have made it through Google's > > filters, and there have been a calls for us to change to a > > moderate-first-post policy. I am reluctant to adopt this policy for the > > following reasons: > > > > We get about 30 new users every day from all over the world, many of whom > > are early in their learning phase and are quite stuck - they need help as > > soon as possible. Fortunately this list is very active and helpful. In > > contrast, we've only ever banned 34 users from the list for spamming. So > > making new users wait for timezones to swing their way feels like a heavy > > handed solution to a small problem. Yes, spammers are annoying but they are > > a small minority on this list. > > > > Instead, we have asked 10 of our long standing members to help us with > > banning spammers. This way we have Spam Guardians active around the globe, > > who only need to do something if a spammer raises their ugly head above the > > parapet. One or two spam emails may get through, but hopefully somebody > > will leap into action and stop their activity before it becomes too > > tiresome. > > > > This isn't an exclusive list. If you would like to be on it, feel free to > > email me. Note: I expect you to be a long standing and currently active > > member of this list to be included. > > > > If this solution doesn't solve the problem, then we can reconsider > > moderate-first-post, but we've managed to go 5 years without requiring it, > > and I'd prefer to keep things as easy as possible for new users. > > > > Clint -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/3c9db9fa-4676-4413-b7e6-e309869a6643%40googlegroups.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/3c9db9fa-4676-4413-b7e6-e309869a6643%40googlegroups.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/d/optout](https://groups.google.com/d/optout). ---
**Author:** ![warkolm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/warkolm/32/39224_2.png) [@warkolm](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/warkolm)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2015, 7:30pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/dealing-with-spam-in-this-forum/18422/15 "2015-03-13T19:30:53Z")
I have had a look through the backend and cannot see these threads at all. On 12 March 2015 at 13:44, Gavin Seng [seng.gavin@gmail.com](mailto:seng.gavin@gmail.com) wrote: > Hi, > > What is the current policy on this? > > I just tried creating 2 new posts ... they showed up for awhile ... and > then disappeared. I thought that it could be because I did inline pictures > ... so I tried reposting and got the same result. > > Not sure if they're in a "to be moderated" bucket ... or googles spam > filter just deleted them. > > The posts had these subjects: > > - What is a reasonable number of evictions for filter\_cache and fielddata? > - Are long queues in management threadpool a problem? > > Thanks, > Gavin > > On Tuesday, December 2, 2014 at 4:56:54 AM UTC-5, nodexy wrote: > > > The first post should be approved . > > > > On Wednesday, July 2, 2014 2:36:44 AM UTC+8, Clinton Gormley wrote: > > > > > Hi all > > > > > > Recently we've had a few spam emails that have made it through Google's > > > filters, and there have been a calls for us to change to a > > > moderate-first-post policy. I am reluctant to adopt this policy for the > > > following reasons: > > > > > > We get about 30 new users every day from all over the world, many of > > > whom are early in their learning phase and are quite stuck - they need help > > > as soon as possible. Fortunately this list is very active and helpful. In > > > contrast, we've only ever banned 34 users from the list for spamming. So > > > making new users wait for timezones to swing their way feels like a heavy > > > handed solution to a small problem. Yes, spammers are annoying but they are > > > a small minority on this list. > > > > > > Instead, we have asked 10 of our long standing members to help us with > > > banning spammers. This way we have Spam Guardians active around the globe, > > > who only need to do something if a spammer raises their ugly head above the > > > parapet. One or two spam emails may get through, but hopefully somebody > > > will leap into action and stop their activity before it becomes too > > > tiresome. > > > > > > This isn't an exclusive list. If you would like to be on it, feel free > > > to email me. Note: I expect you to be a long standing and currently active > > > member of this list to be included. > > > > > > If this solution doesn't solve the problem, then we can reconsider > > > moderate-first-post, but we've managed to go 5 years without requiring it, > > > and I'd prefer to keep things as easy as possible for new users. > > > > > > Clint > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "elasticsearch" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/3c9db9fa-4676-4413-b7e6-e309869a6643%40googlegroups.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/3c9db9fa-4676-4413-b7e6-e309869a6643%40googlegroups.com) > > [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/3c9db9fa-4676-4413-b7e6-e309869a6643%40googlegroups.com?utm\_medium=email&utm\_source=footer](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/3c9db9fa-4676-4413-b7e6-e309869a6643%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer) > > . > > For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/d/optout](https://groups.google.com/d/optout). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAEYi1X-TdUg%2B5r2PUNkNQ3KdU7uzSCcAXFYRaOzrit%3D\_MtdUoA%40mail.gmail.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAEYi1X-TdUg%2B5r2PUNkNQ3KdU7uzSCcAXFYRaOzrit%3D_MtdUoA%40mail.gmail.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/d/optout](https://groups.google.com/d/optout). ---
**Author:** ![Aaron\_Mefford](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f0a364/32.png) [@Aaron\_Mefford](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Aaron_Mefford)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2015, 9:32pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/dealing-with-spam-in-this-forum/18422/16 "2015-03-13T21:32:40Z")
I saw a similar thing happen yesterday, and the post then appeared today. It was not a new thread in this case but instead a reply. I blame Google. On Friday, March 13, 2015 at 1:31:53 PM UTC-6, Mark Walkom wrote: > I have had a look through the backend and cannot see these threads at all. > > On 12 March 2015 at 13:44, Gavin Seng \<[seng....@gmail.com](mailto:seng....@gmail.com) \\> > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > What is the current policy on this? > > > > I just tried creating 2 new posts ... they showed up for awhile ... and > > then disappeared. I thought that it could be because I did inline pictures > > ... so I tried reposting and got the same result. > > > > Not sure if they're in a "to be moderated" bucket ... or googles spam > > filter just deleted them. > > > > The posts had these subjects: > > > > - What is a reasonable number of evictions for filter\_cache and fielddata? > > - Are long queues in management threadpool a problem? > > > > Thanks, > > Gavin > > > > On Tuesday, December 2, 2014 at 4:56:54 AM UTC-5, nodexy wrote: > > > > > The first post should be approved . > > > > > > On Wednesday, July 2, 2014 2:36:44 AM UTC+8, Clinton Gormley wrote: > > > > > > > Hi all > > > > > > > > Recently we've had a few spam emails that have made it through Google's > > > > filters, and there have been a calls for us to change to a > > > > moderate-first-post policy. I am reluctant to adopt this policy for the > > > > following reasons: > > > > > > > > We get about 30 new users every day from all over the world, many of > > > > whom are early in their learning phase and are quite stuck - they need help > > > > as soon as possible. Fortunately this list is very active and helpful. In > > > > contrast, we've only ever banned 34 users from the list for spamming. So > > > > making new users wait for timezones to swing their way feels like a heavy > > > > handed solution to a small problem. Yes, spammers are annoying but they are > > > > a small minority on this list. > > > > > > > > Instead, we have asked 10 of our long standing members to help us with > > > > banning spammers. This way we have Spam Guardians active around the globe, > > > > who only need to do something if a spammer raises their ugly head above the > > > > parapet. One or two spam emails may get through, but hopefully somebody > > > > will leap into action and stop their activity before it becomes too > > > > tiresome. > > > > > > > > This isn't an exclusive list. If you would like to be on it, feel free > > > > to email me. Note: I expect you to be a long standing and currently active > > > > member of this list to be included. > > > > > > > > If this solution doesn't solve the problem, then we can reconsider > > > > moderate-first-post, but we've managed to go 5 years without requiring it, > > > > and I'd prefer to keep things as easy as possible for new users. > > > > > > > > Clint > > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "elasticsearch" group. > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > > email to [elasticsearc...@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearc...@googlegroups.com) \. > > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > > [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/3c9db9fa-4676-4413-b7e6-e309869a6643%40googlegroups.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/3c9db9fa-4676-4413-b7e6-e309869a6643%40googlegroups.com) > > > [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/3c9db9fa-4676-4413-b7e6-e309869a6643%40googlegroups.com?utm\_medium=email&utm\_source=footer](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/3c9db9fa-4676-4413-b7e6-e309869a6643%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer) > > > . > > > For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/d/optout](https://groups.google.com/d/optout). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/f3647cf8-6aa3-405f-bae8-d0748dca61a4%40googlegroups.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/f3647cf8-6aa3-405f-bae8-d0748dca61a4%40googlegroups.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/d/optout](https://groups.google.com/d/optout). ---
**Author:** ![Gavin\_Seng](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e56c9b/32.png) [@Gavin\_Seng](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Gavin_Seng)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2015, 1:36am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/dealing-with-spam-in-this-forum/18422/17 "2015-03-14T01:36:24Z")
Mark, thanks for checking. My posts did show up in the end ... I got an email from google about 18 hours later!! ... and all my re-postings all showed up (had to go delete all the duplicates). Gavin On Friday, March 13, 2015 at 5:32:40 PM UTC-4, [aa...@definemg.com](mailto:aa...@definemg.com) wrote: > I saw a similar thing happen yesterday, and the post then appeared today. > It was not a new thread in this case but instead a reply. I blame Google. > > On Friday, March 13, 2015 at 1:31:53 PM UTC-6, Mark Walkom wrote: > > > I have had a look through the backend and cannot see these threads at all. > > > > On 12 March 2015 at 13:44, Gavin Seng [seng....@gmail.com](mailto:seng....@gmail.com) wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > What is the current policy on this? > > > > > > I just tried creating 2 new posts ... they showed up for awhile ... and > > > then disappeared. I thought that it could be because I did inline pictures > > > ... so I tried reposting and got the same result. > > > > > > Not sure if they're in a "to be moderated" bucket ... or googles spam > > > filter just deleted them. > > > > > > The posts had these subjects: > > > > > > - What is a reasonable number of evictions for filter\_cache and > > > fielddata? > > > - Are long queues in management threadpool a problem? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Gavin > > > > > > On Tuesday, December 2, 2014 at 4:56:54 AM UTC-5, nodexy wrote: > > > > > > > The first post should be approved . > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, July 2, 2014 2:36:44 AM UTC+8, Clinton Gormley wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi all > > > > > > > > > > Recently we've had a few spam emails that have made it through > > > > > Google's filters, and there have been a calls for us to change to a > > > > > moderate-first-post policy. I am reluctant to adopt this policy for the > > > > > following reasons: > > > > > > > > > > We get about 30 new users every day from all over the world, many of > > > > > whom are early in their learning phase and are quite stuck - they need help > > > > > as soon as possible. Fortunately this list is very active and helpful. In > > > > > contrast, we've only ever banned 34 users from the list for spamming. So > > > > > making new users wait for timezones to swing their way feels like a heavy > > > > > handed solution to a small problem. Yes, spammers are annoying but they are > > > > > a small minority on this list. > > > > > > > > > > Instead, we have asked 10 of our long standing members to help us with > > > > > banning spammers. This way we have Spam Guardians active around the globe, > > > > > who only need to do something if a spammer raises their ugly head above the > > > > > parapet. One or two spam emails may get through, but hopefully somebody > > > > > will leap into action and stop their activity before it becomes too > > > > > tiresome. > > > > > > > > > > This isn't an exclusive list. If you would like to be on it, feel free > > > > > to email me. Note: I expect you to be a long standing and currently active > > > > > member of this list to be included. > > > > > > > > > > If this solution doesn't solve the problem, then we can reconsider > > > > > moderate-first-post, but we've managed to go 5 years without requiring it, > > > > > and I'd prefer to keep things as easy as possible for new users. > > > > > > > > > > Clint > > > > > > > > -- > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > > Groups "elasticsearch" group. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > > > > an email to [elasticsearc...@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearc...@googlegroups.com). > > > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > > > [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/3c9db9fa-4676-4413-b7e6-e309869a6643%40googlegroups.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/3c9db9fa-4676-4413-b7e6-e309869a6643%40googlegroups.com) > > > > [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/3c9db9fa-4676-4413-b7e6-e309869a6643%40googlegroups.com?utm\_medium=email&utm\_source=footer](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/3c9db9fa-4676-4413-b7e6-e309869a6643%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer) > > > > . > > > > For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/d/optout](https://groups.google.com/d/optout). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/1b0901e5-6eff-4265-906f-2f2d708ce86e%40googlegroups.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/1b0901e5-6eff-4265-906f-2f2d708ce86e%40googlegroups.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/d/optout](https://groups.google.com/d/optout). ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 12:26am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/dealing-with-spam-in-this-forum/18422/18 "2017-07-06T00:26:49Z")