# Default/other index pattern goes missing after some time, need to be created again,

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/default-other-index-pattern-goes-missing-after-some-time-need-to-be-created-again/206925>\
**Category:** Kibana\
**Created:** [November 7, 2019, 9:01am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/default-other-index-pattern-goes-missing-after-some-time-need-to-be-created-again/206925 "2019-11-07T09:01:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![Parvatayya\_Malimath](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/parvatayya_malimath/32/49330_2.png) [@Parvatayya\_Malimath](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Parvatayya_Malimath)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2019, 9:01am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/default-other-index-pattern-goes-missing-after-some-time-need-to-be-created-again/206925/1 "2019-11-07T09:01:16Z")

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Hi

The default and other index patterns goes missing after a certain period of time. I am not sure why. Version: 6.4.2.  
advise

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**Author:** ![tylersmalley](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/tylersmalley/32/8833_2.png) [@tylersmalley](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/tylersmalley)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2019, 3:29pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/default-other-index-pattern-goes-missing-after-some-time-need-to-be-created-again/206925/2 "2019-11-07T15:29:48Z")

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We don't delete any index patterns behind the scenes. Is it possible anyone or anything is not doing this manually? While it's noisy, you might be able to identify the request using verbose logging, but it won't identify who did it. We're currently working to add audit logs which will assist with this in the future.

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**Author:** ![Parvatayya\_Malimath](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/parvatayya_malimath/32/49330_2.png) [@Parvatayya\_Malimath](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Parvatayya_Malimath)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2019, 4:05pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/default-other-index-pattern-goes-missing-after-some-time-need-to-be-created-again/206925/3 "2019-11-07T16:05:03Z")

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I have configured the cluster to delete the index which are older than certain days. will this cause the disappearing of index patterns? if so, how do i avoid that. without have to stop the curator.

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**Author:** ![tylersmalley](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/tylersmalley/32/8833_2.png) [@tylersmalley](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/tylersmalley)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2019, 4:16pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/default-other-index-pattern-goes-missing-after-some-time-need-to-be-created-again/206925/4 "2019-11-07T16:16:36Z")

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Yeah, that will definitely cause issues. You should ignore any index which starts with a `.`

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**Author:** ![Parvatayya\_Malimath](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/parvatayya_malimath/32/49330_2.png) [@Parvatayya\_Malimath](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Parvatayya_Malimath)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2019, 8:02am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/default-other-index-pattern-goes-missing-after-some-time-need-to-be-created-again/206925/5 "2019-11-08T08:02:34Z")

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well i am not deleting all the indices, i only am deleting the ones with pattern logstash\*. would that have an impact too?

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 8:02am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/default-other-index-pattern-goes-missing-after-some-time-need-to-be-created-again/206925/6 "2019-12-06T08:02:34Z")

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