# Distributed transaction support **URL:** \ **Category:** Elasticsearch\ **Created:** [July 8, 2010, 10:36am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/distributed-transaction-support/3080 "2010-07-08T10:36:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Samuel\_Yung\_2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@Samuel\_Yung\_2](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Samuel_Yung_2)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2010, 10:36am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/distributed-transaction-support/3080/1 "2010-07-08T10:36:50Z")
Hi, How is the distributed transaction support in ES? Specifically will it support JTA transaction in the near future, much like the current compass implementation does? Rds, Samuel ---
**Author:** ![kimchy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/kimchy/32/44952_2.png) [@kimchy](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/kimchy)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2010, 11:01am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/distributed-transaction-support/3080/2 "2010-07-08T11:01:15Z")
Elasticsearch does not and will not support transactions, its atomic on a single operation level. Compass solution for transactions is not scalable, especially with recent Lucene changes. It will need to be solved in a different manner, for example, queue the indexing request, and be able to handle failures to index gracefully. -shay.banon On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Samuel Yung [polyu.samuelyung@gmail.com](mailto:polyu.samuelyung@gmail.com)wrote: > Hi, > > How is the distributed transaction support in ES? Specifically will it > support JTA transaction in the near future, much like the current > compass implementation does? > > Rds, > Samuel ---
**Author:** ![Samuel\_Yung\_2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@Samuel\_Yung\_2](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Samuel_Yung_2)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2010, 1:05pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/distributed-transaction-support/3080/3 "2010-07-08T13:05:52Z")
Hi Shay, So you mean global transactions between database and index can only be possible using programmatic transaction? Could it be possible to implement a JTA transaction manager in Elastic Search? Rds, Samuel On Jul 8, 7:01 pm, Shay Banon [shay.ba...@elasticsearch.com](mailto:shay.ba...@elasticsearch.com) wrote: > Elasticsearch does not and will not support transactions, its atomic on a > single operation level. Compass solution for transactions is not scalable, > especially with recent Lucene changes. It will need to be solved in a > different manner, for example, queue the indexing request, and be able to > handle failures to index gracefully. > > -shay.banon > > On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Samuel Yung [polyu.samuely...@gmail.com](mailto:polyu.samuely...@gmail.com)wrote: > > > Hi, > > > How is the distributed transaction support in ES? Specifically will it > > support JTA transaction in the near future, much like the current > > compass implementation does? > > > Rds, > > Samuel ---
**Author:** ![kimchy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/kimchy/32/44952_2.png) [@kimchy](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/kimchy)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2010, 2:06pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/distributed-transaction-support/3080/4 "2010-07-08T14:06:12Z")
Yes, only programmatically. There won't be a JTA transaction manager in elasticsearch. You can't do it and maintain the scalability aspect of elasticsearch. -shay.banon On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 4:05 PM, Samuel Yung [polyu.samuelyung@gmail.com](mailto:polyu.samuelyung@gmail.com)wrote: > Hi Shay, > > So you mean global transactions between database and index can only be > possible using programmatic transaction? Could it be possible to > implement a JTA transaction manager in Elastic Search? > > Rds, > Samuel > > On Jul 8, 7:01 pm, Shay Banon [shay.ba...@elasticsearch.com](mailto:shay.ba...@elasticsearch.com) wrote: > > > Elasticsearch does not and will not support transactions, its atomic on a > > single operation level. Compass solution for transactions is not > > scalable, > > especially with recent Lucene changes. It will need to be solved in a > > different manner, for example, queue the indexing request, and be able to > > handle failures to index gracefully. > > > > -shay.banon > > > > On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Samuel Yung \<[polyu.samuely...@gmail.com](mailto:polyu.samuely...@gmail.com) > > wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > How is the distributed transaction support in ES? Specifically will it > > > support JTA transaction in the near future, much like the current > > > compass implementation does? > > > > > Rds, > > > Samuel ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 4:22am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/distributed-transaction-support/3080/5 "2017-07-06T04:22:30Z")