# Do i have to make user and role in kibana?

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/do-i-have-to-make-user-and-role-in-kibana/311801>\
**Category:** Elasticsearch\
**Created:** [August 10, 2022, 7:23am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/do-i-have-to-make-user-and-role-in-kibana/311801 "2022-08-10T07:23:09Z")\
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**Post date:** [August 10, 2022, 7:23am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/do-i-have-to-make-user-and-role-in-kibana/311801/1 "2022-08-10T07:23:09Z")

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Hello!  
I'm using ELK stack 8.3.2 version and ubuntu20.04 version.

I want to know that I have to make user in kibana?  
First, I tried to https SSL security in elasticsearch, kibana. But I couldn't make trusted cert file. so, I couldn't https access in chrome. It could access in safari.

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/0/2/02ce9130457ba9e763f3ce843d6bb7bcbecec69a.jpeg)

Now, I'm using http in es and kibana. When, i was using https in safari kibana, I saw user management. But, now i can't see it.

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/e/7/e7b048b23c0828bed7d45e438b494f08e77b34ad.jpeg)  
 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/c/0/c0f5618ec8fc991f6f323df9f3cce52f63f064f3.jpeg)

1. What is meaning?

And

> **[Configure security in Kibana | Kibana Guide \[8.3\] | Elastic](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/kibana/current/using-kibana-with-security.html)**
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> A list of the supported authentication mechanisms in Kibana.

1. If i don't use https ssl, i don't need to making kibana user and role?

Thank u

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2022, 7:23am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/do-i-have-to-make-user-and-role-in-kibana/311801/2 "2022-09-07T07:23:54Z")

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