# Docs.count \[sense\] + kopf vs. kibana

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/docs-count-sense-kopf-vs-kibana/34572>\
**Category:** Kibana\
**Created:** [November 13, 2015, 11:32pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/docs-count-sense-kopf-vs-kibana/34572 "2015-11-13T23:32:06Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 3\
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**Author:** ![nskalis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ebca7d/32.png) [@nskalis](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/nskalis)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2015, 11:32pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/docs-count-sense-kopf-vs-kibana/34572/1 "2015-11-13T23:32:06Z")

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hi guys,

i came across with the following issue that i cannot explain:

- the cat API says that i have so many documents  
 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/2X/2/2a0dd3476603e4696f4ac0df2857a45e3d181c05.png)

- kopf agrees on the number of the documents  

- and kibana has a different opinion, more specifically it exactly halves the #documents  

can a beautiful mind over here please advise on what am missing and kibana shows half the number of the documents indexed ?

Nikos

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**Author:** ![LeeDr](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/leedr/32/9289_2.png) [@LeeDr](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/LeeDr)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2017, 10:46pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/docs-count-sense-kopf-vs-kibana/34572/2 "2017-02-09T22:46:08Z")

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Wow! This went unanswered for over a year ☹

Did you ever figure out what was going on? I can't see what timespan you have selected in Kibana so it's pretty hard to tell if you're getting the range containing all the documents.

Regards,  
Lee

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 1:33pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/docs-count-sense-kopf-vs-kibana/34572/3 "2017-07-06T13:33:10Z")

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