# Does elastic.apm.span\_frames\_min\_duration setting apply? **URL:** \ **Category:** APM\ **Tags:** java\ **Created:** [January 30, 2020, 12:52pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/does-elastic-apm-span-frames-min-duration-setting-apply/217187 "2020-01-30T12:52:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Yungyoung\_Ok](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/yungyoung_ok/32/43465_2.png) [@Yungyoung\_Ok](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Yungyoung_Ok)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2020, 12:52pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/does-elastic-apm-span-frames-min-duration-setting-apply/217187/1 "2020-01-30T12:52:56Z")
If you are asking about a problem you are experiencing, please use the following template, as it will help us help you. If you have a different problem, please delete all of this text 🙂 **Kibana version** :7.5.2 **Elasticsearch version** :7.5.2 **APM Server version** :7.5.2 **APM Agent language and version** :apm-java-agent-1.12.0, java 1.8 **Browser version** :chrome 79.9.3945.130 **Original install method (e.g. download page, yum, deb, from source, etc.) and version**: **Fresh install or upgraded from other version?** **Is there anything special in your setup?** For example, are you using the Logstash or Kafka outputs? Are you using a load balancer in front of the APM Servers? Have you changed index pattern, generated custom templates, changed agent configuration etc. **Description of the problem including expected versus actual behavior. Please include screenshots (if relevant)**: I thought some span was due to short duration time because it was not visible. So, i add properties. But Stacktrace does not appear even though I have added elastic.apm.span\_frames\_min\_duration = 0ms to the elasticapm.properties file. here is my config ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/8/5/85edfe95604175fee20aefe679906a99586a242f.png) and result ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/b/5/b5911b6129002fa05918a4f7a67e85e2ad3ab586.png) How should I set to see stacktrace for all tasks? ---
**Author:** ![Eyal\_Koren](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/eyal_koren/32/36830_2.png) [@Eyal\_Koren](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Eyal_Koren)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2020, 1:10pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/does-elastic-apm-span-frames-min-duration-setting-apply/217187/2 "2020-01-30T13:10:52Z")
From [the documentation](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/apm/agent/java/current/config-stacktrace.html#config-span-frames-min-duration): > To disable stack trace collection for spans completely, set the value to `0ms` The minimal value is `1ms` and that's on purpose- collecting the stack trace has considerable overhead and shouldn't be collected for too many spans. ---
**Author:** ![Yungyoung\_Ok](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/yungyoung_ok/32/43465_2.png) [@Yungyoung\_Ok](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Yungyoung_Ok)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2020, 1:06am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/does-elastic-apm-span-frames-min-duration-setting-apply/217187/3 "2020-01-31T01:06:22Z")
thank you! However, despite changing the settings, stacktrace is not visible. span\_frames\_min\_duration=-1ms ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/f/0/f0b862b7308281fb7d2adee6932901848872bda2.png) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/8/f/8f081998f97f1aba46a617df0cdfb8b798be6380.png) ---
**Author:** ![felixbarny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/felixbarny/32/27341_2.png) [@felixbarny](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/felixbarny)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2020, 3:14pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/does-elastic-apm-span-frames-min-duration-setting-apply/217187/4 "2020-01-31T15:14:21Z")
Could you set your `log_level` to `debug` and upload the agents logs? I'd like to verify that the configuration option was detected correctly. See also [https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/apm/agent/java/current/trouble-shooting.html](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/apm/agent/java/current/trouble-shooting.html) ---
**Author:** ![Yungyoung\_Ok](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/yungyoung_ok/32/43465_2.png) [@Yungyoung\_Ok](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Yungyoung_Ok)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2020, 4:52am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/does-elastic-apm-span-frames-min-duration-setting-apply/217187/5 "2020-02-02T04:52:51Z")
Looking at the log, it seems that all the settings are applied correctly. Here is my log..... ``` 2020-02-02 13:47:16.520 [apm-server-healthcheck] DEBUG co.elastic.apm.agent.report.ApmServerHealthChecker - Starting healthcheck to http://my-apm-server-ip:8200/ 2020-02-02 13:47:16.534 [apm-server-healthcheck] INFO co.elastic.apm.agent.report.ApmServerHealthChecker - Elastic APM server is available: { "build_date": "2020-01-15T10:21:12Z", "build_sha": "0683f8094f42fecedd54cee09c0991febd8ce59a", "version": "7.5.2"} 2020-02-02 13:47:16.536 [apm-server-healthcheck] DEBUG co.elastic.apm.agent.report.ApmServerHealthChecker - APM server http://my-apm-server-ip:8200/ version is: 7.5.2 2020-02-02 13:47:17.052 [main] DEBUG co.elastic.apm.agent.impl.payload.SystemInfo - container ID is null 2020-02-02 13:47:17.070 [main] INFO co.elastic.apm.agent.configuration.StartupInfo - Starting Elastic APM 1.12.0 as mms on Java 1.8.0_231 (Oracle Corporation) Windows 10 10.0 2020-02-02 13:47:17.071 [main] DEBUG co.elastic.apm.agent.configuration.StartupInfo - service_name: 'my-service' (source: path/to/file/elasticapm.properties) 2020-02-02 13:47:17.071 [apm-remote-config-poller] DEBUG co.elastic.apm.agent.configuration.ApmServerConfigurationSource - Reloading configuration from APM Server http://my-apm-server-ip:8200/config/v1/agents 2020-02-02 13:47:17.071 [main] DEBUG co.elastic.apm.agent.configuration.StartupInfo - config_file: 'path/to/file/elasticapm.properties' (source: Java System Properties) 2020-02-02 13:47:17.071 [main] DEBUG co.elastic.apm.agent.configuration.StartupInfo - server_urls: 'http://my-apm-server-ip:8200' (source: path/to/file/elasticapm.properties) 2020-02-02 13:47:17.071 [main] DEBUG co.elastic.apm.agent.configuration.StartupInfo - application_packages: 'my.package.name' (source: path/to/file/elasticapm.properties) 2020-02-02 13:47:17.071 [main] DEBUG co.elastic.apm.agent.configuration.StartupInfo - span_frames_min_duration: '-1ms' (source: path/to/file/elasticapm.properties) 2020-02-02 13:47:17.071 [main] DEBUG co.elastic.apm.agent.configuration.StartupInfo - log_level: 'DEBUG' (source: path/to/file/elasticapm.properties) 2020-02-02 13:47:17.071 [main] DEBUG co.elastic.apm.agent.configuration.StartupInfo - use_path_as_transaction_name: 'true' (source: path/to/file/elasticapm.properties) ``` Also, even though the 'use\_path\_as\_transaction\_name: true' setting is applied, the transaction name appears as shown below. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/7/d/7d44aa4f120f51147f83013156617a1719a187a0.png) How can I represent a transaction name exactly like a url? ---
**Author:** ![Eyal\_Koren](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/eyal_koren/32/36830_2.png) [@Eyal\_Koren](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Eyal_Koren)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2020, 6:48am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/does-elastic-apm-span-frames-min-duration-setting-apply/217187/6 "2020-02-02T06:48:22Z")
Can you look whether there is additional place where you set the `span_frames_min_duration` config (e.g. system properties or environment variables)? If you can provide the entire log from startup to the point your application is running some traces, that might help. From the [`use_path_as_transaction_name` documentation](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/apm/agent/java/current/config-http.html#config-use-path-as-transaction-name): > If set to `true` , transaction names **of unsupported Servlet API-based frameworks** will be in the form of `$method $path` instead of just `$method` . Meaning - since you are using a supported framework, we use that for naming. You need to turn off the instrumentation that captures your traces. See [`disable_instrumentations`](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/apm/agent/java/current/config-core.html#config-disable-instrumentations) on how to do that. For example, if you are using JAX-RS, you need to set `disable_instrumentations=jax-rs` in addition to `use_path_as_transaction_name=true`, however, read through all these and understand the implications. You may prefer sticking to the existing names. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2020, 2:48am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/does-elastic-apm-span-frames-min-duration-setting-apply/217187/7 "2020-02-23T02:48:23Z")
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