# Does Kibana require the content to be 'stored'? **URL:** \ **Category:** Elasticsearch\ **Created:** [October 4, 2014, 10:51pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/does-kibana-require-the-content-to-be-stored/20077 "2014-10-04T22:51:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![burtonator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/burtonator/32/44790_2.png) [@burtonator](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/burtonator)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2014, 10:51pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/does-kibana-require-the-content-to-be-stored/20077/1 "2014-10-04T22:51:16Z")
Lucene supports the ability for a field to not be stored inline with the content. It only stores the inverted index if stored=false. Right now all our content is stored in Cassandra. What I want to do is also write it to ES and only have it store the inverted index. Otherwise, I'm writing content twice... the inverted index will only take about 40% of the original content. I imagine ES can do this... Solr can.. but I'm having trouble determining if ES can as well. How would Kibana operate in this situation? I would want it to be able to show the content ... will Kibana break in this situation? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/5c775d0a-9525-4794-bb30-26e26ffe2d22%40googlegroups.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/5c775d0a-9525-4794-bb30-26e26ffe2d22%40googlegroups.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/d/optout](https://groups.google.com/d/optout). ---
**Author:** ![vineeth\_mohan\_2](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/vineeth_mohan_2/32/747_2.png) [@vineeth\_mohan\_2](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/vineeth_mohan_2)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2014, 3:31am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/does-kibana-require-the-content-to-be-stored/20077/2 "2014-10-05T03:31:27Z")
Hello Kevin , With \_source as false , all your visualization other than table should work just fine. But then table visualization needs \_source to work fine as it CANT recreate the data from inverted index. Thanks Vineeth On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 4:21 AM, Kevin Burton [burtonator@gmail.com](mailto:burtonator@gmail.com) wrote: > Lucene supports the ability for a field to not be stored inline with the > content. It only stores the inverted index if stored=false. > > Right now all our content is stored in Cassandra. What I want to do is > also write it to ES and only have it store the inverted index. > > Otherwise, I'm writing content twice... the inverted index will only take > about 40% of the original content. > > I imagine ES can do this... Solr can.. but I'm having trouble determining > if ES can as well. > > How would Kibana operate in this situation? I would want it to be able to > show the content ... will Kibana break in this situation? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "elasticsearch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). > To view this discussion on the web visit > [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/5c775d0a-9525-4794-bb30-26e26ffe2d22%40googlegroups.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/5c775d0a-9525-4794-bb30-26e26ffe2d22%40googlegroups.com) > [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/5c775d0a-9525-4794-bb30-26e26ffe2d22%40googlegroups.com?utm\_medium=email&utm\_source=footer](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/5c775d0a-9525-4794-bb30-26e26ffe2d22%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer) > . > For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/d/optout](https://groups.google.com/d/optout). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAGdPd5nO9\_Q\_Rosa0dYB0BTmxqFCx3DfFgsqAmctFK0LHTph7A%40mail.gmail.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAGdPd5nO9_Q_Rosa0dYB0BTmxqFCx3DfFgsqAmctFK0LHTph7A%40mail.gmail.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/d/optout](https://groups.google.com/d/optout). ---
**Author:** ![burtonator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/burtonator/32/44790_2.png) [@burtonator](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/burtonator)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2014, 7:11am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/does-kibana-require-the-content-to-be-stored/20077/3 "2014-10-05T07:11:58Z")
Interesting.. Do you know if it's possible to provide the source for the table from another provider? I guess I could build it if totally necessary. But without the table is probably fine for now.. I might actually store some content there now that I think about it. Maybe a title, link, and summary. On Saturday, October 4, 2014 8:31:34 PM UTC-7, vineeth mohan wrote: > Hello Kevin , > > With \_source as false , all your visualization other than table should > work just fine. > But then table visualization needs \_source to work fine as it CANT > recreate the data from inverted index. > > Thanks > Vineeth > > On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 4:21 AM, Kevin Burton \<[burto...@gmail.com](mailto:burto...@gmail.com) > \\> wrote: > > > Lucene supports the ability for a field to not be stored inline with the > > content. It only stores the inverted index if stored=false. > > > > Right now all our content is stored in Cassandra. What I want to do is > > also write it to ES and only have it store the inverted index. > > > > Otherwise, I'm writing content twice... the inverted index will only take > > about 40% of the original content. > > > > I imagine ES can do this... Solr can.. but I'm having trouble determining > > if ES can as well. > > > > How would Kibana operate in this situation? I would want it to be able > > to show the content ... will Kibana break in this situation? > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "elasticsearch" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email to [elasticsearc...@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearc...@googlegroups.com) \. > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/5c775d0a-9525-4794-bb30-26e26ffe2d22%40googlegroups.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/5c775d0a-9525-4794-bb30-26e26ffe2d22%40googlegroups.com) > > [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/5c775d0a-9525-4794-bb30-26e26ffe2d22%40googlegroups.com?utm\_medium=email&utm\_source=footer](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/5c775d0a-9525-4794-bb30-26e26ffe2d22%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer) > > . > > For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/d/optout](https://groups.google.com/d/optout). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/47c1d56e-08ea-481e-9de4-16b59a3768d0%40googlegroups.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/47c1d56e-08ea-481e-9de4-16b59a3768d0%40googlegroups.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/d/optout](https://groups.google.com/d/optout). ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 12:58am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/does-kibana-require-the-content-to-be-stored/20077/4 "2017-07-06T00:58:13Z")