# Elastic Endpoint - Questionable snaps causing problems

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/elastic-endpoint-questionable-snaps-causing-problems/322582>\
**Category:** Elastic Security\
**Created:** [January 6, 2023, 12:27am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/elastic-endpoint-questionable-snaps-causing-problems/322582 "2023-01-06T00:27:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![PublicName](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/74df32/32.png) [@PublicName](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/PublicName)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 12:27am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/elastic-endpoint-questionable-snaps-causing-problems/322582/1 "2023-01-06T00:27:27Z")

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Why is Endpoint creating snap shots on Windows Server 2016/19? This started with 8.5.1+ and has seriously messed up some of my legacy backups that relay on the windows snap shots manager to process. I've had several fail as I'm having a conflict with times as Endpoint is creating without a schedule. This looks really suspicious...

Shadow copy has been created.

User SID: S-1-5-18  
User name: NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM  
Process ID: 0x000000000000095c  
Process image name: C:\Program Files\Elastic\Endpoint\elastic-endpoint.exe

What is enabled for endpoint:  
Malware -Prevent  
Ransomware -Prevent  
Memory threat -Prevent  
Malicious behavior -Prevent

On a policy that is a mirror of the same and Endpoint running 8.5.1 but in Detect only with Ransomware, Memory threat and Malicious behavior and with Malware in Prevent its not creating the snaps.

I was wondering why my storage space whet up nearly 500Gb over a few days after the update and noticed that several hundred servers now have local snaps all starting just after the endpoint agent was updated. It does remove them after 8 or size but this was not an expected behavior that was accounted for. Downgrading the agent the snaps no longer happen upgrade and snaps happen again.

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**Author:** ![wsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/wsouza/32/92547_2.png) [@wsouza](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/wsouza)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2023, 1:40pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/elastic-endpoint-questionable-snaps-causing-problems/322582/2 "2023-01-08T13:40:05Z")

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In fact, it is a very suspicious behavior considering that, when searching the documentation, I did not find any information about this type of behavior. Even because shadow copy is a windows feature. Have you updated the integrations for this agent? Were you able to examine the logs coming from that agent?

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**Author:** ![ferullo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/ferullo/32/74240_2.png) [@ferullo](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/ferullo)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2023, 7:44pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/elastic-endpoint-questionable-snaps-causing-problems/322582/3 "2023-01-10T19:44:46Z")

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I'm sorry this is causing you trouble. These snapshots are created as a part of Endpoint's self healing feature on Windows. There is a way for you to turn this off and to prevent problem issue you're having. I opened a documentation update issue to document how to do that and rather than restate it here I'll just [link](https://github.com/elastic/security-docs/issues/2830) to it. I hope that helps.

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**Author:** ![PublicName](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/74df32/32.png) [@PublicName](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/PublicName)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2023, 8:48pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/elastic-endpoint-questionable-snaps-causing-problems/322582/4 "2023-01-12T20:48:43Z")

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One way to track it down is to check when the last snap shot was created on the machine and then narrow to a 5 second window. Not the quickest but the amount of noise you have to get through you'll end up seeing Process image name: C:\Program Files\Elastic\Endpoint\elastic-endpoint.exe and it will have a few behind it and you'll see it was the that creates the snaps.

It has been confirmed by Daniel as it is part of Endpoint.

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2023, 8:49pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/elastic-endpoint-questionable-snaps-causing-problems/322582/5 "2023-02-09T20:49:39Z")

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