# Elastic superuser: You need permission to access Machine Learning

**URL:** https://discuss.elastic.co/t/elastic-superuser-you-need-permission-to-access-machine-learning/193378
**Category:** Kibana
**Created:** [August 1, 2019, 4:29pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/elastic-superuser-you-need-permission-to-access-machine-learning/193378 "2019-08-01T16:29:36Z")
**Posts on this page:** 11
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### Author: ![sergiodcm00](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@sergiodcm00](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/sergiodcm00)
#### Post date: [August 1, 2019, 4:29pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/elastic-superuser-you-need-permission-to-access-machine-learning/193378/1 "2019-08-01T16:29:36Z")

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Hello,  
suddenly, I'm not user when (perphaps after change ES cluster name) I cant load Machine Learning tab (logged in Kibana with superuser elastic). Kibana says:

You need permission to access Machine Learning

You must have the privileges granted in the kibana\_user and machine\_learning\_user roles.  
Your system admin can set these roles on the Management User page.

For test purpose, I've create another user with kibana\_user and machine\_learning\_user roles only with not success.

All index (security-v7 too) seems to be all.

Can anyone help me?

Thank you!

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### Author: ![lmi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3ec8ea/32.png) [@lmi](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/lmi)
#### Post date: [August 6, 2019, 5:49pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/elastic-superuser-you-need-permission-to-access-machine-learning/193378/2 "2019-08-06T17:49:24Z")

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I am also looking for resolution to this issue. Even logging in as superuser I am unable to access the ML functionality with the BASIC license.

Thank you.

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### Author: ![lmi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3ec8ea/32.png) [@lmi](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/lmi)
#### Post date: [August 6, 2019, 11:38pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/elastic-superuser-you-need-permission-to-access-machine-learning/193378/3 "2019-08-06T23:38:47Z")

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@sergiodcm00 This issue on Github appears to be the same problem we're experiencing.

> <https://github.com/elastic/kibana/issues/41825>

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### Author: ![mvenkat\_in](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/58f4c7/32.png) [@mvenkat\_in](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/mvenkat_in)
#### Post date: [August 8, 2019, 7:02am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/elastic-superuser-you-need-permission-to-access-machine-learning/193378/4 "2019-08-08T07:02:27Z")

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Hi  
Is there any resolution - I am facing the same issue.

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### Author: ![Christian\_Dahlqvist](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/christian_dahlqvist/32/4617_2.png) [@Christian\_Dahlqvist](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Christian_Dahlqvist)
#### Post date: [August 8, 2019, 7:06am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/elastic-superuser-you-need-permission-to-access-machine-learning/193378/5 "2019-08-08T07:06:07Z")

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Machine learning requires a commercial license and is generally not available when using the basic license.

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### Author: ![mvenkat\_in](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/58f4c7/32.png) [@mvenkat\_in](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/mvenkat_in)
#### Post date: [August 8, 2019, 7:12am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/elastic-superuser-you-need-permission-to-access-machine-learning/193378/6 "2019-08-08T07:12:52Z")

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Can we get some trail license to test !

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### Author: ![Christian\_Dahlqvist](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/christian_dahlqvist/32/4617_2.png) [@Christian\_Dahlqvist](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Christian_Dahlqvist)
#### Post date: [August 8, 2019, 8:22am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/elastic-superuser-you-need-permission-to-access-machine-learning/193378/7 "2019-08-08T08:22:11Z")

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Yes, you can enable that through Kibana.

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### Author: ![lmi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3ec8ea/32.png) [@lmi](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/lmi)
#### Post date: [August 15, 2019, 3:22pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/elastic-superuser-you-need-permission-to-access-machine-learning/193378/8 "2019-08-15T15:22:41Z")

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It's a fix, but isn't in any revision yet.

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### Author: ![lmi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3ec8ea/32.png) [@lmi](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/lmi)
#### Post date: [August 15, 2019, 3:35pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/elastic-superuser-you-need-permission-to-access-machine-learning/193378/9 "2019-08-15T15:35:05Z")

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Hi @Christian_Dahlqvist, @mvenkat_in -  
With a Basic license we should be able to access Data Frames and Visualizer in ML. This appears to be a bug and has been fixed here: [https://github.com/elastic/kibana/pull/41876](https://github.com/elastic/kibana/pull/41876), though not in any release yet.

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### Author: ![mvenkat\_in](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/58f4c7/32.png) [@mvenkat\_in](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/mvenkat_in)
#### Post date: [August 20, 2019, 8:59am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/elastic-superuser-you-need-permission-to-access-machine-learning/193378/10 "2019-08-20T08:59:57Z")

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Hi  
Any Idea how to access ML at present without waiting for this bug... I am using Kibana 7.3. A demo is scheduled and would want to test this feature.  
Thanks

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### Author: ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)
#### Post date: [September 17, 2019, 9:00am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/elastic-superuser-you-need-permission-to-access-machine-learning/193378/11 "2019-09-17T09:00:03Z")

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