# ElasticSearch 1.0 features?

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/elasticsearch-1-0-features/11882>\
**Category:** Elasticsearch\
**Created:** [May 8, 2013, 5:28pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/elasticsearch-1-0-features/11882 "2013-05-08T17:28:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ivan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/df788c/32.png) [@Ivan](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Ivan)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 5:28pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/elasticsearch-1-0-features/11882/1 "2013-05-08T17:28:51Z")

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Shay commented on an issue about one possible feature in the 1.0 release:

> <https://github.com/elastic/elasticsearch/issues/1076>

Which leads me to the question: what is in store for 1.0? There are issues  
tagged v1.0.0.Beta1, so 1.0 is being actively developed.

I would love to know the status of some longstanding requests such as:

- the referenced facet refactor
- full cluster restarts for upgrades (  
[https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/elasticsearch/p2mu0Tv3VPI/0sXdwuwCKR8J](https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/elasticsearch/p2mu0Tv3VPI/0sXdwuwCKR8J)  
)
- better backups/export
- split brain bug (  
[https://github.com/elasticsearch/elasticsearch/issues/2117](https://github.com/elasticsearch/elasticsearch/issues/2117))

Also, when will the 0.20 (last Lucene 3.x) and 0.90 branches stop being  
worked on? There are a few commits for 0.20.7, which has not been released.

Still on 0.20, waiting for 1.0. If there are no relevant features, I might  
switch to 0.90 instead.

Thanks for all the hard work,

Ivan

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**Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 6:11pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/elasticsearch-1-0-features/11882/2 "2013-05-08T18:11:08Z")

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Re split brain bug (  
[split brain condition after second network disconnect - even with minimum\_master\_nodes set · Issue #2117 · elastic/elasticsearch · GitHub](https://github.com/elasticsearch/elasticsearch/issues/2117))

Is there a reason why ES doesn't move to ZooKeeper as its default, like  
SolrCloud did?

On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 8:28 PM, Ivan Brusic [ivan@brusic.com](mailto:ivan@brusic.com) wrote:

> Shay commented on an issue about one possible feature in the 1.0 release:  
> [Support Hierarchical Facets · Issue #1076 · elastic/elasticsearch · GitHub](https://github.com/elasticsearch/elasticsearch/issues/1076#issuecomment-17566680)
> 
> Which leads me to the question: what is in store for 1.0? There are issues  
> tagged v1.0.0.Beta1, so 1.0 is being actively developed.
> 
> I would love to know the status of some longstanding requests such as:
> 
> - the referenced facet refactor
> - full cluster restarts for upgrades (  
> [Redirecting to Google Groups](https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/elasticsearch/p2mu0Tv3VPI/0sXdwuwCKR8J)  
> )
> - better backups/export
> - split brain bug (  
> [split brain condition after second network disconnect - even with minimum\_master\_nodes set · Issue #2117 · elastic/elasticsearch · GitHub](https://github.com/elasticsearch/elasticsearch/issues/2117))
> 
> Also, when will the 0.20 (last Lucene 3.x) and 0.90 branches stop being  
> worked on? There are a few commits for 0.20.7, which has not been released.
> 
> Still on 0.20, waiting for 1.0. If there are no relevant features, I might  
> switch to 0.90 instead.
> 
> Thanks for all the hard work,
> 
> Ivan
> 
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**Author:** ![Ivan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/df788c/32.png) [@Ivan](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Ivan)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 7:05pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/elasticsearch-1-0-features/11882/3 "2013-05-08T19:05:29Z")

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There is a plugin to utilize ZooKeeper:

> **[GitHub - sonian/elasticsearch-zookeeper](https://github.com/sonian/elasticsearch-zookeeper)**
>
> Contribute to sonian/elasticsearch-zookeeper development by creating an account on GitHub.

SolrCloud defaults to a single ZooKeeper instance, but in reality you need  
a ZooKeeper cluster for production installs. I personally do not want to  
manage another cluster if possible.

The only reason why I mentioned the split-brain issue is that since it  
affects zen discovery, I can envision the solution requiring some  
substantial (and breaking) changes. If something is going to be  
re-architected, hopefully it will be in a new version (and not have  
breaking changes between minor versions).

Cheers,

Ivan

On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Itamar Syn-Hershko [itamar@code972.com](mailto:itamar@code972.com)wrote:

> Re split brain bug (  
> [split brain condition after second network disconnect - even with minimum\_master\_nodes set · Issue #2117 · elastic/elasticsearch · GitHub](https://github.com/elasticsearch/elasticsearch/issues/2117))
> 
> Is there a reason why ES doesn't move to ZooKeeper as its default, like  
> SolrCloud did?
> 
> On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 8:28 PM, Ivan Brusic [ivan@brusic.com](mailto:ivan@brusic.com) wrote:
> 
> > Shay commented on an issue about one possible feature in the 1.0 release:  
> > [Support Hierarchical Facets · Issue #1076 · elastic/elasticsearch · GitHub](https://github.com/elasticsearch/elasticsearch/issues/1076#issuecomment-17566680)
> > 
> > Which leads me to the question: what is in store for 1.0? There are  
> > issues tagged v1.0.0.Beta1, so 1.0 is being actively developed.
> > 
> > I would love to know the status of some longstanding requests such as:
> > 
> > - the referenced facet refactor
> > - full cluster restarts for upgrades (  
> > [Redirecting to Google Groups](https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/elasticsearch/p2mu0Tv3VPI/0sXdwuwCKR8J)  
> > )
> > - better backups/export
> > - split brain bug (  
> > [split brain condition after second network disconnect - even with minimum\_master\_nodes set · Issue #2117 · elastic/elasticsearch · GitHub](https://github.com/elasticsearch/elasticsearch/issues/2117))
> > 
> > Also, when will the 0.20 (last Lucene 3.x) and 0.90 branches stop being  
> > worked on? There are a few commits for 0.20.7, which has not been released.
> > 
> > Still on 0.20, waiting for 1.0. If there are no relevant features, I  
> > might switch to 0.90 instead.
> > 
> > Thanks for all the hard work,
> > 
> > Ivan
> > 
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**Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 7:10pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/elasticsearch-1-0-features/11882/4 "2013-05-08T19:10:38Z")

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Zookeeper is overkill. It comes with a load of features. ES is not  
making use of them.

As Igor Motov noted in the elasticsearch-zookeeper plugin, most  
split-brains happen due to irregular node outages

[https://groups.google.com/d/msg/elasticsearch-zookeeper/49V9baDFoZg/J1sOZKSvLwkJ](https://groups.google.com/d/msg/elasticsearch-zookeeper/49V9baDFoZg/J1sOZKSvLwkJ)

and Zookeeper can not fix that outages either.

On the other hand, there are some leader election algorithms who do not  
operate with quorums. Hirschberg-Sinclair may be an option, maybe it  
behaves better in some network disconnection scenarios.

Jörg

Am 08.05.13 20:11, schrieb Itamar Syn-Hershko:

> Re split brain bug  
> ([split brain condition after second network disconnect - even with minimum\_master\_nodes set · Issue #2117 · elastic/elasticsearch · GitHub](https://github.com/elasticsearch/elasticsearch/issues/2117))
> 
> Is there a reason why ES doesn't move to ZooKeeper as its default,  
> like SolrCloud did?
> 
> On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 8:28 PM, Ivan Brusic \<[ivan@brusic.com](mailto:ivan@brusic.com)  
> [mailto:ivan@brusic.com](mailto:ivan@brusic.com)\> wrote:
> 
> ```
> Shay commented on an issue about one possible feature in the 1.0
> release:
> https://github.com/elasticsearch/elasticsearch/issues/1076#issuecomment-17566680
> 
> Which leads me to the question: what is in store for 1.0? There
> are issues tagged v1.0.0.Beta1, so 1.0 is being actively developed.
> 
> I would love to know the status of some longstanding requests such as:
> * the referenced facet refactor
> * full cluster restarts for upgrades
> (https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/elasticsearch/p2mu0Tv3VPI/0sXdwuwCKR8J
> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#%21msg/elasticsearch/p2mu0Tv3VPI/0sXdwuwCKR8J>)
> * better backups/export
> * split brain bug
> (https://github.com/elasticsearch/elasticsearch/issues/2117)
> 
> Also, when will the 0.20 (last Lucene 3.x) and 0.90 branches stop
> being worked on? There are a few commits for 0.20.7, which has not
> been released.
> 
> Still on 0.20, waiting for 1.0. If there are no relevant features,
> I might switch to 0.90 instead.
> 
> Thanks for all the hard work,
> 
> Ivan
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Very early for christmas, but my (never ending) wish list is:

- pluggable faceting framework: collations for sorting facet entries,  
histograms with equidistant and non-equidistant binning (uniform and  
non-uniform widths), and the longstanding "grouping/collapsing" feature  
(supervised clustering of docs)

- Websockets as an alternative to REST HTTP, together with an event  
source on node level to pub/sub for ES nodex/index/shard events, and for  
a streaming API for "piping" JSON into ES bulk indexing

- contineous datacenter to datacenter replication (Websockets might help  
to "tee" an index to multiple targets in the background, without discovery)

- query estimator to block "evil"/"heavy" queries from executing

- resource watchdog to detect low resource conditions and execute  
emergency node actions (throttle, admin mail, shutdown)

- Lucene DocValues for fast key/value store (should be there already,  
haven't checked)

- classifiers for terms/documents (unsupervised clustering of docs)

- improving discovery algorithms (leader election)

- lots of tooling OOTB for the lazy admin (web console, backup/restore  
tool, upgrade tool, hooks for deployment scripts)

... nuff' for ES 2.0, 3.0 and 4.0 if you ask me 🙂

Jörg

Am 08.05.13 19:28, schrieb Ivan Brusic:

> I would love to know the status of some longstanding requests such as:
> 
> - the referenced facet refactor
> - full cluster restarts for upgrades  
> ([Redirecting to Google Groups](https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/elasticsearch/p2mu0Tv3VPI/0sXdwuwCKR8J)  
> [https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/elasticsearch/p2mu0Tv3VPI/0sXdwuwCKR8J](https://groups.google.com/forum/#%21msg/elasticsearch/p2mu0Tv3VPI/0sXdwuwCKR8J))
> - better backups/export
> - split brain bug  
> ([split brain condition after second network disconnect - even with minimum\_master\_nodes set · Issue #2117 · elastic/elasticsearch · GitHub](https://github.com/elasticsearch/elasticsearch/issues/2117))

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**Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 8:56pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/elasticsearch-1-0-features/11882/6 "2013-05-08T20:56:09Z")

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My list is based on previous discussions of issues that could potentially  
be featured in future releases (1.0). If I had to compile a wish list, mine  
would be just as long!

On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Jörg Prante [joergprante@gmail.com](mailto:joergprante@gmail.com) wrote:

> Very early for christmas, but my (never ending) wish list is:
> 
> - pluggable faceting framework: collations for sorting facet entries,  
> histograms with equidistant and non-equidistant binning (uniform and  
> non-uniform widths), and the longstanding "grouping/collapsing" feature  
> (supervised clustering of docs)
> 
> - Websockets as an alternative to REST HTTP, together with an event source  
> on node level to pub/sub for ES nodex/index/shard events, and for a  
> streaming API for "piping" JSON into ES bulk indexing
> 
> - contineous datacenter to datacenter replication (Websockets might help  
> to "tee" an index to multiple targets in the background, without discovery)
> 
> - query estimator to block "evil"/"heavy" queries from executing
> 
> - resource watchdog to detect low resource conditions and execute  
> emergency node actions (throttle, admin mail, shutdown)
> 
> - Lucene DocValues for fast key/value store (should be there already,  
> haven't checked)
> 
> - classifiers for terms/documents (unsupervised clustering of docs)
> 
> - improving discovery algorithms (leader election)
> 
> - lots of tooling OOTB for the lazy admin (web console, backup/restore  
> tool, upgrade tool, hooks for deployment scripts)
> 
> ... nuff' for ES 2.0, 3.0 and 4.0 if you ask me 🙂
> 
> Jörg
> 
> Am 08.05.13 19:28, schrieb Ivan Brusic:
> 
> > I would love to know the status of some longstanding requests such as:
> > 
> > - the referenced facet refactor
> > - full cluster restarts for upgrades ([https://groups.google.com/](https://groups.google.com/)\*\*  
> > forum/#!msg/elasticsearch/**p2mu0Tv3VPI/0sXdwuwCKR8J[https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/elasticsearch/p2mu0Tv3VPI/0sXdwuwCKR8J](https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/elasticsearch/p2mu0Tv3VPI/0sXdwuwCKR8J)\<  
> > [https://groups.google.com/\*\*forum/#!msg/elasticsearch/](https://groups.google.com/**forum/#%21msg/elasticsearch/)**  
> > p2mu0Tv3VPI/0sXdwuwCKR8J[https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/elasticsearch/p2mu0Tv3VPI/0sXdwuwCKR8J](https://groups.google.com/forum/#%21msg/elasticsearch/p2mu0Tv3VPI/0sXdwuwCKR8J)
> > 
> > > )
> > 
> > - better backups/export
> > - split brain bug ([https://github.com/\*\*elasticsearch/elasticsearch/](https://github.com/**elasticsearch/elasticsearch/)\*\*  
> > issues/2117 [https://github.com/elasticsearch/elasticsearch/issues/2117](https://github.com/elasticsearch/elasticsearch/issues/2117))
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+1 for basically everything Jorg mentions with an emphasis on the  
faceting improvements, collapsing/grouping, and dc-to-dc replication.

Thanks,  
Matt Weber

On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Ivan Brusic [ivan@brusic.com](mailto:ivan@brusic.com) wrote:

> My list is based on previous discussions of issues that could potentially be  
> featured in future releases (1.0). If I had to compile a wish list, mine  
> would be just as long!
> 
> On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Jörg Prante [joergprante@gmail.com](mailto:joergprante@gmail.com) wrote:
> 
> > Very early for christmas, but my (never ending) wish list is:
> > 
> > - pluggable faceting framework: collations for sorting facet entries,  
> > histograms with equidistant and non-equidistant binning (uniform and  
> > non-uniform widths), and the longstanding "grouping/collapsing" feature  
> > (supervised clustering of docs)
> > 
> > - Websockets as an alternative to REST HTTP, together with an event source  
> > on node level to pub/sub for ES nodex/index/shard events, and for a  
> > streaming API for "piping" JSON into ES bulk indexing
> > 
> > - contineous datacenter to datacenter replication (Websockets might help  
> > to "tee" an index to multiple targets in the background, without discovery)
> > 
> > - query estimator to block "evil"/"heavy" queries from executing
> > 
> > - resource watchdog to detect low resource conditions and execute  
> > emergency node actions (throttle, admin mail, shutdown)
> > 
> > - Lucene DocValues for fast key/value store (should be there already,  
> > haven't checked)
> > 
> > - classifiers for terms/documents (unsupervised clustering of docs)
> > 
> > - improving discovery algorithms (leader election)
> > 
> > - lots of tooling OOTB for the lazy admin (web console, backup/restore  
> > tool, upgrade tool, hooks for deployment scripts)
> > 
> > ... nuff' for ES 2.0, 3.0 and 4.0 if you ask me 🙂
> > 
> > Jörg
> > 
> > Am 08.05.13 19:28, schrieb Ivan Brusic:
> > 
> > > I would love to know the status of some longstanding requests such as:
> > > 
> > > - the referenced facet refactor
> > > 
> > > - full cluster restarts for upgrades  
> > > ([Redirecting to Google Groups](https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/elasticsearch/p2mu0Tv3VPI/0sXdwuwCKR8J)  
> > > [https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/elasticsearch/p2mu0Tv3VPI/0sXdwuwCKR8J](https://groups.google.com/forum/#%21msg/elasticsearch/p2mu0Tv3VPI/0sXdwuwCKR8J))
> > > 
> > > - better backups/export
> > > 
> > > - split brain bug  
> > > ([split brain condition after second network disconnect - even with minimum\_master\_nodes set · Issue #2117 · elastic/elasticsearch · GitHub](https://github.com/elasticsearch/elasticsearch/issues/2117))
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