# Enable x-pack without ssl on kibana and elasticsearch using helm chart

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/enable-x-pack-without-ssl-on-kibana-and-elasticsearch-using-helm-chart/186956>\
**Category:** Elasticsearch\
**Tags:** elastic-stack-security\
**Created:** [June 22, 2019, 1:21pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/enable-x-pack-without-ssl-on-kibana-and-elasticsearch-using-helm-chart/186956 "2019-06-22T13:21:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![Christian\_Dahlqvist](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/christian_dahlqvist/32/4617_2.png) [@Christian\_Dahlqvist](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Christian_Dahlqvist)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2019, 10:47am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/enable-x-pack-without-ssl-on-kibana-and-elasticsearch-using-helm-chart/186956/2 "2019-06-23T10:47:44Z")

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You can not use authentication and role-based access controls in Elasticsearch without configuring SSL/TLS as this would lead to credentials being sent across the network to and between nodes in clear text.

See [this thread](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/the-third-node-cannot-join-the-cluster-es-7-1-0/183660/5) for a similar discussion.

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