# Error in one alert rule object crashes the rule list

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/error-in-one-alert-rule-object-crashes-the-rule-list/329533>\
**Category:** Kibana\
**Created:** [April 6, 2023, 3:58pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/error-in-one-alert-rule-object-crashes-the-rule-list/329533 "2023-04-06T15:58:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![upcfrost](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/upcfrost/32/118774_2.png) [@upcfrost](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/upcfrost)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2023, 3:58pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/error-in-one-alert-rule-object-crashes-the-rule-list/329533/1 "2023-04-06T15:58:57Z")

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Hi,

After playing around with alerting and browser monitors in uptime, my alert rules page got completely broken. On every request it raises an error similar to:

```auto
Could not find reference for kibanaSavedObjectMeta.searchSourceJSON.index

```

These errors provide saved object IDs which point to the alerts I've tried to silence right before everything broke down.

Is it possible to somehow reanimate/delete alert in this state? So far I've tried the saved objects UI and the API. The UI says there's a hidden object which can't be deleted, the API says "object not found".

Best regards,  
Petr

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**Author:** ![Marius\_Dragomir](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/marius_dragomir/32/42087_2.png) [@Marius\_Dragomir](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Marius_Dragomir)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2023, 4:53am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/error-in-one-alert-rule-object-crashes-the-rule-list/329533/2 "2023-04-15T04:53:47Z")

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Normally just rebooting your Kibana server should fix/reinstall all the predefined alerts if that's one of the ones you have issues with.

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**Author:** ![upcfrost](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/upcfrost/32/118774_2.png) [@upcfrost](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/upcfrost)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2023, 9:38am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/error-in-one-alert-rule-object-crashes-the-rule-list/329533/3 "2023-04-20T09:38:23Z")

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Hi,

My issue is with the custom alert, unfortunately. Right now i can see Alerts in the Kibana Observability panel, but not in the Stack Monitoring. All these alerts are ES query alerts, and i think the query itself was just not saved (the rule is there, but not the query it tries to run).  
The easiest solution would be to just delete these rules, i think, but Kibana doesn't allow this.

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2023, 9:39am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/error-in-one-alert-rule-object-crashes-the-rule-list/329533/4 "2023-05-18T09:39:23Z")

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