# ES 1.4.2, Tribe Configuration, And Creating Indices

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/es-1-4-2-tribe-configuration-and-creating-indices/22007>\
**Category:** Elasticsearch\
**Created:** [February 6, 2015, 3:21am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/es-1-4-2-tribe-configuration-and-creating-indices/22007 "2015-02-06T03:21:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ed\_Brown](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/ed_brown/32/19230_2.png) [@Ed\_Brown](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Ed_Brown)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2015, 3:21am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/es-1-4-2-tribe-configuration-and-creating-indices/22007/1 "2015-02-06T03:21:39Z")

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Hello,  
I have ES 1.4.2 installed on four servers, with one server hosting the ES  
tribe node and the other three servers hosting an ES instance. I decided to  
have the three servers each being a cluster of one server, to test some  
things out.

If I connect to the tribe node, and try to create an index and bulk index,  
it fails with an error saying no master can be found. But if I create the  
indices on each node and then bulk index using the tribe node, it works.  
Additionally, if I create an index template on the three nodes, and then  
index using the tribe node, this works. Even if the index doesn't initially  
exist.

Reading the documentation, as I understand it, indexing into a new index  
via the tribe node should never work.

Is the behavior I'm seeing, expected?

Thanks in advance.

--  
Ed Brown,  
Software Architect

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**Post date:** [February 6, 2015, 3:55am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/es-1-4-2-tribe-configuration-and-creating-indices/22007/2 "2015-02-06T03:55:53Z")

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says it can do reads and writes.

But note;

> However, there are a few exceptions:
> 
> - The merged view cannot handle indices with the same name in multiple  
> clusters. By default it will pick one of them, see later for on\_conflict  
> options.
> - Master level read operations (eg _Cluster State_  
> [http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/cluster-state.html](http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/cluster-state.html)  
> , _Cluster Health_  
> [http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/cluster-health.html](http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/cluster-health.html))  
> will automatically execute with a local flag set to true since there is no  
> master.
> - Master level write operations (eg _Create Index_  
> [http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/indices-create-index.html](http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/indices-create-index.html))  
> are not allowed. These should be performed on a single cluster.

On 6 February 2015 at 14:21, Ed Brown [edswarchitect@gmail.com](mailto:edswarchitect@gmail.com) wrote:

> Hello,  
> I have ES 1.4.2 installed on four servers, with one server hosting the ES  
> tribe node and the other three servers hosting an ES instance. I decided to  
> have the three servers each being a cluster of one server, to test some  
> things out.
> 
> If I connect to the tribe node, and try to create an index and bulk index,  
> it fails with an error saying no master can be found. But if I create the  
> indices on each node and then bulk index using the tribe node, it works.  
> Additionally, if I create an index template on the three nodes, and then  
> index using the tribe node, this works. Even if the index doesn't initially  
> exist.
> 
> Reading the documentation, as I understand it, indexing into a new index  
> via the tribe node should never work.
> 
> Is the behavior I'm seeing, expected?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> --  
> Ed Brown,  
> Software Architect
> 
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**Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 12:34am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/es-1-4-2-tribe-configuration-and-creating-indices/22007/3 "2017-07-06T00:34:35Z")

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