# ES defaults not exhibiting typical Lucene behavior **URL:** \ **Category:** Elasticsearch\ **Created:** [September 7, 2012, 5:11pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/es-defaults-not-exhibiting-typical-lucene-behavior/8956 "2012-09-07T17:11:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Allison\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Allison\_A](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Allison_A)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2012, 5:11pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/es-defaults-not-exhibiting-typical-lucene-behavior/8956/1 "2012-09-07T17:11:52Z")
I have a field "CategoryMajor" I have two documents: Doc 1: CategoryMajor: Restaurants Doc 2: CategoryMajor: Restaurants, Restaurants, Restaurants, Restaurants, Restaurants If I search for CategoryMajor:Restaurants, then Doc #1 is more relevant than Doc #2. Why is this, and how do I remedy this? Thanks, Allison -- ---
**Author:** ![Allison\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Allison\_A](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Allison_A)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2012, 6:31pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/es-defaults-not-exhibiting-typical-lucene-behavior/8956/2 "2012-09-07T18:31:04Z")
I've provided some output below. The 4 instances of the term should be most relevant, then the two, and one last. Yet this is not the case... [http://localhost:9200/test/type1/\_search?pretty=true&q=cat:restaurants](http://localhost:9200/test/type1/_search?pretty=true&q=cat:restaurants) { "took" : 10, "timed\_out" : false, "\_shards" : { "total" : 5, "successful" : 5, "failed" : 0 }, "hits" : { "total" : 3, "max\_score" : 0.30685282, "hits" : [ { "\_index" : "test", "\_type" : "type1", "\_id" : "doc2", "\_score" : 0.30685282, "\_source" : {"cat": "restaurants restaurants restaurants restaurants"} }, { "\_index" : "test", "\_type" : "type1", "\_id" : "doc3", "\_score" : 0.30685282, "\_source" : {"cat": "restaurants"} }, { "\_index" : "test", "\_type" : "type1", "\_id" : "doc1", "\_score" : 0.2712221, "\_source" : {"cat": "restaurants restaurants"} } ] } } On Friday, September 7, 2012 1:11:52 PM UTC-4, Allison A. wrote: > I have a field "CategoryMajor" > > I have two documents: > Doc 1: CategoryMajor: Restaurants > Doc 2: CategoryMajor: Restaurants, Restaurants, Restaurants, Restaurants, > Restaurants > > If I search for CategoryMajor:Restaurants, then Doc #1 is more relevant > than Doc #2. > > Why is this, and how do I remedy this? > > Thanks, > Allison -- ---
**Author:** ![phill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/779978/32.png) [@phill](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/phill)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2012, 9:39pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/es-defaults-not-exhibiting-typical-lucene-behavior/8956/3 "2012-09-07T21:39:18Z")
What does your mapping look like? That can effect scoring. [http://localhost:9200/test/type1/\_mapping?pretty=true](http://localhost:9200/test/type1/_mapping?pretty=true) -Paul On 9/7/2012 11:31 AM, Allison A. wrote: > I've provided some output below. The 4 instances of the term should be > most relevant, then the two, and one last. Yet this is not the case... > > [http://localhost:9200/test/type1/\_search?pretty=true&q=cat:restaurants](http://localhost:9200/test/type1/_search?pretty=true&q=cat:restaurants) > > { > "took" : 10, > "timed\_out" : false, > "\_shards" : { > "total" : 5, > "successful" : 5, > "failed" : 0 > }, > "hits" : { > "total" : 3, > "max\_score" : 0.30685282, > "hits" : [ { > "\_index" : "test", > "\_type" : "type1", > "\_id" : "doc2", > "\_score" : 0.30685282, "\_source" : {"cat": "restaurants restaurants restaurants restaurants"} > }, { > "\_index" : "test", > "\_type" : "type1", > "\_id" : "doc3", > "\_score" : 0.30685282, "\_source" : {"cat": "restaurants"} > }, { > "\_index" : "test", > "\_type" : "type1", > "\_id" : "doc1", > "\_score" : 0.2712221, "\_source" : {"cat": "restaurants restaurants"} > } ] > } > } > > On Friday, September 7, 2012 1:11:52 PM UTC-4, Allison A. wrote: > > ``` > I have a field "CategoryMajor" > > I have two documents: > Doc 1: CategoryMajor: Restaurants > Doc 2: CategoryMajor: Restaurants, Restaurants, Restaurants, > Restaurants, Restaurants > > If I search for CategoryMajor:Restaurants, then Doc #1 is more > relevant than Doc #2. > > Why is this, and how do I remedy this? > > Thanks, > Allison > > ``` > > -- -- ---
**Author:** ![Clinton\_Gormley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/50afbb/32.png) [@Clinton\_Gormley](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Clinton_Gormley)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2012, 8:25am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/es-defaults-not-exhibiting-typical-lucene-behavior/8956/4 "2012-09-10T08:25:11Z")
Hi Allison On Fri, 2012-09-07 at 11:31 -0700, Allison A. wrote: > I've provided some output below. The 4 instances of the term should be > most relevant, then the two, and one last. Yet this is not the case... You really need to provide a full recreation of the problem. That allows us to test it locally. See [Elasticsearch Platform — Find real-time answers at scale | Elastic](http://www.elasticsearch.org/help) However, my guess would be that it is a combination of a few factors: 1. you have few docs, and you are using the default of 5 primary shards, so your terms are not yet well distributed. You can eliminate this problem by: 2. You are testing short bits of text. The "norm" for a field is stored (in Lucene \< 4) in a single byte. So a field with 1 token may be considered to be the same "length" as a field with 2-4 tokens clint > [http://localhost:9200/test/type1/\_search?pretty=true&q=cat:restaurants](http://localhost:9200/test/type1/_search?pretty=true&q=cat:restaurants) > > { > "took" : 10, > "timed\_out" : false, > "\_shards" : { > "total" : 5, > "successful" : 5, > "failed" : 0 > }, > "hits" : { > "total" : 3, > "max\_score" : 0.30685282, > "hits" : [ { > "\_index" : "test", > "\_type" : "type1", > "\_id" : "doc2", > "\_score" : 0.30685282, "\_source" : {"cat": "restaurants restaurants restaurants restaurants"} > }, { > "\_index" : "test", > "\_type" : "type1", > "\_id" : "doc3", > "\_score" : 0.30685282, "\_source" : {"cat": "restaurants"} > }, { > "\_index" : "test", > "\_type" : "type1", > "\_id" : "doc1", > "\_score" : 0.2712221, "\_source" : {"cat": "restaurants restaurants"} > } ] > } > } > > On Friday, September 7, 2012 1:11:52 PM UTC-4, Allison A. wrote: > I have a field "CategoryMajor" > > ``` > I have two documents: > Doc 1: CategoryMajor: Restaurants > Doc 2: CategoryMajor: Restaurants, Restaurants, Restaurants, > Restaurants, Restaurants > > > If I search for CategoryMajor:Restaurants, then Doc #1 is more > relevant than Doc #2. > > > Why is this, and how do I remedy this? > > > Thanks, > Allison > > ``` > > -- -- ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 3:13am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/es-defaults-not-exhibiting-typical-lucene-behavior/8956/5 "2017-07-06T03:13:25Z")
Closed on July 6, 2017, 3:13am UTC