# ES kopf and head plugins with shield
**URL:** https://discuss.elastic.co/t/es-kopf-and-head-plugins-with-shield/25399
**Category:** Elasticsearch
**Tags:** elastic-stack-security
**Created:** [July 12, 2015, 11:52pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/es-kopf-and-head-plugins-with-shield/25399 "2015-07-12T23:52:26Z")
**Posts on this page:** 5
**Page:** 1
### Author:  [@bluethundr](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/bluethundr)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2015, 11:52pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/es-kopf-and-head-plugins-with-shield/25399/1 "2015-07-12T23:52:26Z")
Guys,
I've just setup my elasticseearch cluster with shiled. Since doing that, my kopf and head plugins have gone dark and can't pull any information. What do I need to do?
thanks
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### Author:  [@bluethundr](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/bluethundr)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2015, 12:21am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/es-kopf-and-head-plugins-with-shield/25399/2 "2015-07-13T00:21:06Z")
Never mind to this one. The data turned up in a while. I waited about 20 minutes before seeing any info in kopf. It usually turns up immediately without shield, which is why I asked.
All set now.
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### Author:  [@etfeet](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/etfeet)
#### Post date: [October 21, 2015, 8:52pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/es-kopf-and-head-plugins-with-shield/25399/3 "2015-10-21T20:52:29Z")
How did you get this working?
I can connect to HQ plugin just fine. However, neither head or kopf are working for me. I've left them running for a couple hours and still nothing. weird thing is when you go to info in head it shows the default api info.
ie
{
"status": 200,
"name": "elk-test-01.lab.local",
"cluster\_name": "elktest",
"version": {
"number": "1.5.2",
"build\_hash": "62ff9868b4c8a0c45860bebb259e21980778ab1c",
"build\_timestamp": "2015-04-27T09:21:06Z",
"build\_snapshot": false,
"lucene\_version": "4.10.4"
},
"tagline": "You Know, for Search"
}
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### Author:  [@etfeet](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/etfeet)
#### Post date: [October 22, 2015, 12:39am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/es-kopf-and-head-plugins-with-shield/25399/4 "2015-10-22T00:39:40Z")
I figured it out. I didn't have any indexes in my cluster so they were both saying the cluster was down. Once I made some indexes it started working right away.
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### Author:  [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)
#### Post date: [July 6, 2017, 1:48pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/es-kopf-and-head-plugins-with-shield/25399/5 "2017-07-06T13:48:12Z")