# ES5 Indexing performance (seems slow)
**URL:** https://discuss.elastic.co/t/es5-indexing-performance-seems-slow/65084
**Category:** Elasticsearch
**Created:** [November 5, 2016, 5:13am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/es5-indexing-performance-seems-slow/65084 "2016-11-05T05:13:09Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@trisport88](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/trisport88)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2016, 5:13am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/es5-indexing-performance-seems-slow/65084/1 "2016-11-05T05:13:09Z")
Hi,
When indexing 200000 documents in batches of 1000 using the bulk REST API I am seeing the following log messages:
> [2016-11-03T21:30:55,263][INFO][o.e.i.IndexingMemoryController] [node-1] now throttling indexing for shard [[myindex][1]]: segment writing can't keep up
> [2016-11-03T21:30:57,708][INFO][o.e.i.IndexingMemoryController] [node-1] now throttling indexing for shard [[myindex][2]]: segment writing can't keep up
> [2016-11-03T21:31:01,213][INFO][o.e.i.IndexingMemoryController] [node-1] now throttling indexing for shard [[myindex][3]]: segment writing can't keep up
> [2016-11-03T21:31:05,020][INFO][o.e.i.IndexingMemoryController] [node-1] now throttling indexing for shard [[myindex][4]]: segment writing can't keep up
> [2016-11-03T21:31:10,675][INFO][o.e.i.IndexingMemoryController] [node-1] now throttling indexing for shard [[myindex][0]]: segment writing can't keep up
This is an out of the box ES5 node. I have defined two indexes each with a single type. The mapping for each type is nothing complicated (about 18 fields per document 16 of which are strings the other 2 are longs). I am not storing \_source.
Any suggestions for configuration changes that I can make (I am running on a Mac)?
Cheers,
Stuart
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### Author:  [@trisport88](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/trisport88)
#### Post date: [November 6, 2016, 2:48am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/es5-indexing-performance-seems-slow/65084/2 "2016-11-06T02:48:04Z")
So I modified the JVM options from:
> -Xms2g
> -Xmx2g
To:
> -Xms20g
> -Xmx20g
And the throttle message has stopped but I now get this instead:
> [2016-11-05T19:41:27,922][INFO][o.e.m.j.JvmGcMonitorService] [node-1] [gc][465] overhead, spent [443ms] collecting in the last [1s]
> [2016-11-05T19:41:28,922][INFO][o.e.m.j.JvmGcMonitorService] [node-1] [gc][466] overhead, spent [316ms] collecting in the last [1s]
> [2016-11-05T19:41:30,929][INFO][o.e.m.j.JvmGcMonitorService] [node-1] [gc][468] overhead, spent [310ms] collecting in the last [1s]
> [2016-11-05T19:41:33,033][INFO][o.e.m.j.JvmGcMonitorService] [node-1] [gc][470] overhead, spent [312ms] collecting in the last [1.1s]
> [2016-11-05T19:41:35,176][INFO][o.e.m.j.JvmGcMonitorService] [node-1] [gc][472] overhead, spent [343ms] collecting in the last [1.1s]
> [2016-11-05T19:41:36,179][INFO][o.e.m.j.JvmGcMonitorService] [node-1] [gc][473]
Any suggestions on how to resolve this?
Cheers,
Stuart
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### Author:  [@warkolm](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/warkolm)
#### Post date: [November 6, 2016, 2:51am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/es5-indexing-performance-seems-slow/65084/3 "2016-11-06T02:51:31Z")
It's garbage collection, it's normal.
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### Author:  [@trisport88](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/trisport88)
#### Post date: [November 6, 2016, 3:14am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/es5-indexing-performance-seems-slow/65084/4 "2016-11-06T03:14:47Z")
I thought it was perhaps excessive...oh well.
I guess I will need to look for other reasons as to why the performance is 5 times slower than sphinx.
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### Author:  [@warkolm](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/warkolm)
#### Post date: [November 6, 2016, 3:28am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/es5-indexing-performance-seems-slow/65084/5 "2016-11-06T03:28:29Z")
> [@trisport88](#):
>
> I guess I will need to look for other reasons as to why the performance is 5 times slower than sphinx.
You haven't really given much to go on here, so it's very hard to say.
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### Author:  [@trisport88](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/trisport88)
#### Post date: [November 6, 2016, 3:49am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/es5-indexing-performance-seems-slow/65084/6 "2016-11-06T03:49:56Z")
Well I'm not the expert...
Maybe some pointers on how to increase the performance or things to look into? I freely admit it could be related to the adapter I wrote (although it is simply pulling information from SQL and pushing to Elastic using the bulk rest API. 1000 per second).
Sphinx index time:
real 1m7.001s
user 0m43.332s
sys 0m3.135s
Elastic index time:
real 4m16.630s
user 0m40.943s
sys 0m11.706s
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### Author:  [@warkolm](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/warkolm)
#### Post date: [November 6, 2016, 4:15am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/es5-indexing-performance-seems-slow/65084/7 "2016-11-06T04:15:37Z")
What version are you on?
What do the docs look like, what about the mapping?
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### Author:  [@trisport88](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/trisport88)
#### Post date: [November 6, 2016, 4:59am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/es5-indexing-performance-seems-slow/65084/8 "2016-11-06T04:59:54Z")
What version are you on?
> 5.0 GA
What do the docs look like, what about the mapping?
> Anonymized to protect the innocent...
> Mappings:
> {"index\_one":{"mappings":{"document\_one":{"\_source":{"enabled":false},"properties":{"field1":{"type":"text"},"created\_at":{"type":"long"},"field2":{"type":"text"},"field3":{"type":"text"},"field4":{"type":"text"},"field5":{"type":"text"},"field6":{"type":"long"},"field7":{"type":"text"},"field8":{"type":"text"},"field9":{"type":"text"},"field10":{"type":"text"},"field11":{"type":"text"},"field12":{"type":"text"},"field13":{"type":"text"},"field14":{"type":"text"},"field15":{"type":"text"},"field16":{"type":"text"}}}}}}
> {"index\_two":{"mappings":{"document\_two":{"\_source":{"enabled":false},"properties":{"field1":{"type":"text"},"field2":{"type":"text"},"field3":{"type":"text"},"field4":{"type":"text"},"field5":{"type":"long"},"field6":{"properties":{"fieldX1":{"type":"text","fields":{"keyword":{"type":"keyword","ignore\_above":256}}},"fieldX2":{"type":"text","fields":{"keyword":{"type":"keyword","ignore\_above":256}}},"fieldX3":{"properties":{"fieldX4":{"type":"text","fields":{"keyword":{"type":"keyword","ignore\_above":256}}},"fieldX5":{"properties":{"fieldX6":{"type":"text","fields":{"keyword":{"type":"keyword","ignore\_above":256}}}}}}}}},"field7":{"type":"text"},"field8":{"type":"text"},"field9":{"type":"long"},"field10":{"type":"text"},"field10":{"type":"text"},"field11":{"type":"text"},"field12":{"type":"text"},"field13":{"type":"text"},"field14":{"type":"text"},"field15":{"type":"text"},"type":{"type":"text"}}}}}}
Example documents:
Document\_two:
> {
> "field1": 5,
> "field2": "a sentence of text",
> "field3": "aWord",
> "field4": "aWord",
> "field5": "aWord",
> "field6": "aWord",
> "field7": "aWord",
> "field8": "aWord",
> "field9": "aWord",
> "field10": "aWord",
> "field11" : {
> "fieldX1: "aWord",
> "fieldX2: {
> "fieldX3" : "aWord"
> }
> }
> "field12": 1476313771,
> "field13": 1476313786,
> "field14" : ["aWord", "aWord"],
> "field15" : "aWord",
> "field16" : "aWord",
> "field17" : "aWord",
> }
Document\_one:
> {
> "field1" : 1455186369,
> "field2" : ["aWord", "aWord"],
> "field3" : "aWord",
> "field4" : ["aWord"],
> "field5" : 10073,
> "field6" : "aWord",
> "field7" : "aWord",
> "field8" : 1455186368,
> "field9" : ["aWord", "aWord"],
> "field10" : ["aWord"],
> "field11" : 10073,
> "field12" : "aWord",
> "field13" : "aWord"
> }
The mappings might not exactly match the documents as I manually renamed fields but hopefully you get the idea.
The timings I gave you above were for 1.3 million documents. If I run all the logic apart from the following line it takes 1 min 50 seconds (So about 2 mins+ more when the bulk api is called):
// For 1000 documents (\_bulk)
// Response response = restClient.performRequest(
// PUT,
// path,
// new Hashtable\<\>(),
// requestBody);
I should add than my indexing program is single threaded.
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### Author:  [@Christian\_Dahlqvist](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Christian_Dahlqvist)
#### Post date: [November 6, 2016, 9:07am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/es5-indexing-performance-seems-slow/65084/9 "2016-11-06T09:07:21Z")
> [@trisport88](#):
>
> I should add than my indexing program is single threaded.
For optimal indexing performance you should probably increase this a bit. Don't start with a very large value, but rather gradually increase it in small steps until you see no further improvement in throughput. When I benchmark, I often do not need a very large number of threads for optimal indexing throughput. You may also want to review [this guide to indexing performance](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/guide/current/indexing-performance.html) if you have not already.
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### Author:  [@trisport88](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/trisport88)
#### Post date: [November 6, 2016, 8:10pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/es5-indexing-performance-seems-slow/65084/10 "2016-11-06T20:10:22Z")
Thanks Christian, I appreciate your suggestions (& link). I will investigate further.
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### Author:  [@jasontedor](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/jasontedor)
#### Post date: [November 7, 2016, 1:29am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/es5-indexing-performance-seems-slow/65084/11 "2016-11-07T01:29:06Z")
This is excessive garbage collection, the node is spending more than 30% of its time collecting. That's why we have this warning.
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### Author:  [@warkolm](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/warkolm)
#### Post date: [November 7, 2016, 2:12am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/es5-indexing-performance-seems-slow/65084/12 "2016-11-07T02:12:21Z")
But it's info level?
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### Author:  [@jasontedor](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/jasontedor)
#### Post date: [November 7, 2016, 2:57am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/es5-indexing-performance-seems-slow/65084/13 "2016-11-07T02:57:01Z")
Default debug at 10%, info at 25%, and warn at 50%.
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### Author:  [@trisport88](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/trisport88)
#### Post date: [November 7, 2016, 8:29pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/es5-indexing-performance-seems-slow/65084/14 "2016-11-07T20:29:22Z")
Hi,
Just to give an update. I attempted to split the indexing into two threads (one per document type) rather then first indexing one document type then the other. This leads to a timeout exception (On my Mac Book Pro the ElasticSearch Java CPU hovers around 250% during the indexing):
```
java.io.IOException: listener timeout after waiting for [10000] ms
at org.elasticsearch.client.RestClient$SyncResponseListener.get(RestClient.java:617)
at org.elasticsearch.client.RestClient.performRequest(RestClient.java:212)
at org.elasticsearch.client.RestClient.performRequest(RestClient.java:185)
...
```
I attempted to increase the timeout:
```
restClient = RestClient.builder(hosts)
.setFailureListener(failureListener)
.setMaxRetryTimeoutMillis(100000)
.build();
```
But that leads to a socket timeout:
```
java.net.SocketTimeoutException
at org.apache.http.nio.protocol.HttpAsyncRequestExecutor.timeout(HttpAsyncRequestExecutor.java:375)
at org.apache.http.impl.nio.client.InternalIODispatch.onTimeout(InternalIODispatch.java:92)
at org.apache.http.impl.nio.client.InternalIODispatch.onTimeout(InternalIODispatch.java:39)
at org.apache.http.impl.nio.reactor.AbstractIODispatch.timeout(AbstractIODispatch.java:175)
at org.apache.http.impl.nio.reactor.BaseIOReactor.sessionTimedOut(BaseIOReactor.java:263)
at org.apache.http.impl.nio.reactor.AbstractIOReactor.timeoutCheck(AbstractIOReactor.java:492)
at org.apache.http.impl.nio.reactor.BaseIOReactor.validate(BaseIOReactor.java:213)
at org.apache.http.impl.nio.reactor.AbstractIOReactor.execute(AbstractIOReactor.java:280)
at org.apache.http.impl.nio.reactor.BaseIOReactor.execute(BaseIOReactor.java:104)
at org.apache.http.impl.nio.reactor.AbstractMultiworkerIOReactor$Worker.run(AbstractMultiworkerIOReactor.java:588)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:745)
```
Before attempting to split the indexer into more threads I will the indexing performance tips link provided by Christian to see if that helps.
While the indexing is occurring I see many (about 47 before the exception) INFO log lines regarding the GC overhead.
Cheers,
Stuart
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### Author:  [@trisport88](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/trisport88)
#### Post date: [November 8, 2016, 1:30am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/es5-indexing-performance-seems-slow/65084/15 "2016-11-08T01:30:32Z")
I'm not sure how to improve the indexing performance I am seeing. I have tried different batch sizes, different numbers of threads, different configurations (indices.store.throttle.type of none and refresh\_internval of -1) and different JVM options (including messing with the GC). The performance I am seeing on my Mac (depending on the batch size) is between 7000 to 12000 documents per second (each document is about 500 bytes).
I have read of people achieving much higher index rates so I'm not sure what is the problem.
Unsure if I had messed something up with my indexer code I instead used logstash on one of the JDBC tables (so there is not a line of code written by me). The performance was worse (I am assuming this is because it is not using the batch API).
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### Author:  [@Loek](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Loek)
#### Post date: [November 9, 2016, 10:32am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/es5-indexing-performance-seems-slow/65084/16 "2016-11-09T10:32:56Z")
Are you running Monitoring? You can do this with a free Basic license: [https://www.elastic.co/subscriptions](https://www.elastic.co/subscriptions)
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### Author:  [@Christian\_Dahlqvist](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Christian_Dahlqvist)
#### Post date: [November 9, 2016, 10:49am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/es5-indexing-performance-seems-slow/65084/17 "2016-11-09T10:49:39Z")
Performance and indexing throughout depends a lot on the hardware used as well as the size and nature of the data indexed. Comparing indexed events per second to someone running Elasticsearch on a production server is not necessarily very useful. When you are indexing, what does CPU and IO load look like? Have you identified what is limiting performance?
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### Author:  [@trisport88](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/trisport88)
#### Post date: [November 11, 2016, 12:56am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/es5-indexing-performance-seems-slow/65084/18 "2016-11-11T00:56:16Z")
I'm currently spending less time investigating this as it might be that we can tolerate the performance (not sure yet). Anyway, I have tried a number of different configurations on the client side (more threads, big batch sizes etc...) and the best performance I can get is a single thread.
While running 10 threads and a batch size of 2000 the indexing will consistently time out after 10 seconds (one of the threads times out and then I cancel all the other ones). What I see is that gradually the total processing time (the value provided in the bulk response) slowly creeps up towards 10s. When it gets close to 10s the indexing threads start timing out. While the response times are increasing the GC overhead is also increasing.
The output from running iostat -w 3 while this was going on :
> ```
> disk0 disk2 cpu load average
> KB/t tps MB/s KB/t tps MB/s us sy id 1m 5m 15m
>
> ```
>
> 206.84 175 35.33 0.00 0 0.00 87 10 3 8.17 5.32 5.27
> 161.92 138 21.80 0.00 0 0.00 90 7 3 8.17 5.32 5.27
> 176.33 139 23.95 0.00 0 0.00 91 8 1 7.83 5.30 5.26
> 82.98 113 9.13 0.00 0 0.00 91 6 2 7.83 5.30 5.26
> 183.03 134 23.91 0.00 0 0.00 90 7 3 8.09 5.39 5.30
> 57.79 177 9.97 0.00 0 0.00 88 10 1 7.92 5.40 5.30
> 160.84 157 24.71 0.00 0 0.00 89 8 3 7.92 5.40 5.30
> 57.69 188 10.57 0.00 0 0.00 90 6 4 7.68 5.40 5.30
> 104.62 110 11.19 0.00 0 0.00 92 5 4 7.68 5.40 5.30
> 260.84 96 24.50 0.00 0 0.00 92 6 2 8.75 5.66 5.39
> 196.15 151 28.96 0.00 0 0.00 90 6 4 8.85 5.73 5.42
> 210.46 129 26.48 0.00 0 0.00 92 6 2 8.85 5.73 5.42
> 207.70 93 18.79 0.00 0 0.00 91 5 3 8.62 5.73 5.42
> 194.61 135 25.65 0.00 0 0.00 88 8 4 8.62 5.73 5.42
> 96.09 129 12.12 0.00 0 0.00 93 5 2 8.97 5.85 5.46
> 68.68 114 7.64 0.00 0 0.00 89 9 2 9.45 6.00 5.52
> 92.53 88 7.94 0.00 0 0.00 94 4 2 9.45 6.00 5.52
> 102.65 230 23.05 0.00 0 0.00 90 8 2 8.78 5.92 5.49
> 200.96 171 33.60 0.00 0 0.00 89 8 3 8.78 5.92 5.49
> 184.09 162 29.15 0.00 0 0.00 91 6 3 8.55 5.92 5.50
It timed out just at the end when I stopped the monitoring.
This was the output of the elastic x-pack monitor (it timed out around the highpoint of the last peak in system load) :
I have tried running with different heap sizes (2G, 5G, 8G) but the results are similar.
My Mac has 16G of memory and everything is running on the same box.
Does anyone know if there is a recommended configuration for running on a typical Mac book pro? Maybe for the test I am running Elasticsearch needs to be on its own machine. No timeouts occur if I limit the batch size to 1000 in a single thread but if I want to try and match the performance of Sphinx I am having trouble to do that on this machine.
Cheers,
Stuart
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### Author:  [@small-tomorrow](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/small-tomorrow)
#### Post date: [November 29, 2016, 1:03pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/es5-indexing-performance-seems-slow/65084/19 "2016-11-29T13:03:14Z")
So ,have you solved this ? I face the same problems when upgrading from ES2.1 to ES5.0 ,and the bulk indexing operation performs lower than ES 2.1 ,and always OOM
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### Author:  [@trisport88](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/trisport88)
#### Post date: [November 29, 2016, 9:22pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/es5-indexing-performance-seems-slow/65084/20 "2016-11-29T21:22:30Z")
Sorry but I was unable to improve the performance for the tests I was running. I have only used ES5 so I cannot comment on if the performance has gotten worse. I am no longer actively investigating this.
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