# External versioning for create

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/external-versioning-for-create/67499>\
**Category:** Elasticsearch\
**Created:** [November 29, 2016, 2:52pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/external-versioning-for-create/67499 "2016-11-29T14:52:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ejmon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Ejmon](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Ejmon)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 3:15pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/external-versioning-for-create/67499/7 "2016-12-02T15:15:42Z")

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Well create is end not such problem in the end, as I can use index. Worse is that update API is not supporting external version not even when I make sure that I increase the version all the time with each update. So I can use noop detection with external versioning which is really a pity because it would help tremendously. I have started another thread about it [detect noops with external version](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/detect-noops-with-external-version/67840) to see if there is a way around it. But as for this thread I mainly want to know how it exactly works if I was not missing something. Thank you for your answer.

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