# Final word on the need for brokers with Logstash 2.0? **URL:** \ **Category:** Logstash\ **Created:** [November 9, 2015, 7:14pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/final-word-on-the-need-for-brokers-with-logstash-2-0/34188 "2015-11-09T19:14:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ehogan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b487fb/32.png) [@ehogan](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/ehogan)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2015, 7:14pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/final-word-on-the-need-for-brokers-with-logstash-2-0/34188/1 "2015-11-09T19:14:25Z")
I have gone through what documents I can find, and a presentation (which had no audio, only slides) and I find a number of references to the new built-in queuing mechanism in Logstash 2.0. But I cannot find anything definitive that says Redis/Kafka/RabbitMQ/etc are no longer needed as brokers for 2.0. It may be documented somewhere, but I cannot seem to find it in any of the logical places to look. (Like a LS 2.0 Release Notes...) Is there an "official" stance on the need for a broker with LS 2.0? Thanks, Emmett ---
**Author:** ![magnusbaeck](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/magnusbaeck/32/44943_2.png) [@magnusbaeck](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/magnusbaeck)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2015, 7:35pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/final-word-on-the-need-for-brokers-with-logstash-2-0/34188/2 "2015-11-09T19:35:47Z")
There is no built-in queuing in Logstash 2.0. It believe it was in the 2.0 [roadmap](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/logstash-roadmap/current/index.html) earlier this year but it has since been bumped to later releases. If a queue _had_ been introduced in 2.0 it would definitely have been listed in the release notes. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 5:23am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/final-word-on-the-need-for-brokers-with-logstash-2-0/34188/3 "2017-07-06T05:23:22Z")
Closed on July 6, 2017, 5:23am UTC