# For those wanting to try Marvel **URL:** \ **Category:** Elasticsearch\ **Created:** [January 28, 2014, 10:37pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/for-those-wanting-to-try-marvel/15459 "2014-01-28T22:37:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Ivan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/df788c/32.png) [@Ivan](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Ivan)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2014, 10:37pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/for-those-wanting-to-try-marvel/15459/1 "2014-01-28T22:37:14Z")
It is only supported with Elasticsearch 0.90.8 and higher. Yet another push for me to upgrade! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CALY%3DcQCjpsnrgo\_1jenzVJxamZEFNKWHztdAF142QeV9BDqMew%40mail.gmail.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CALY%3DcQCjpsnrgo_1jenzVJxamZEFNKWHztdAF142QeV9BDqMew%40mail.gmail.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). ---
**Author:** ![warkolm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/warkolm/32/39224_2.png) [@warkolm](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/warkolm)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2014, 10:47pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/for-those-wanting-to-try-marvel/15459/2 "2014-01-28T22:47:54Z")
The docs mention 0.90.9 and higher - > **[Elasticsearch Platform — Find real-time answers at scale](https://www.elastic.co)** > > Power insights and outcomes with the Elasticsearch Platform and AI. See into your data and find answers that matter with enterprise solutions designed to help you build, observe, and protect. Try Elasticsearch free today. Regards, Mark Walkom Infrastructure Engineer Campaign Monitor email: [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com) web: [www.campaignmonitor.com](http://www.campaignmonitor.com) On 29 January 2014 09:37, Ivan Brusic [ivan@brusic.com](mailto:ivan@brusic.com) wrote: > It is only supported with Elasticsearch 0.90.8 and higher. > > Yet another push for me to upgrade! > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "elasticsearch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). > To view this discussion on the web visit > [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CALY%3DcQCjpsnrgo\_1jenzVJxamZEFNKWHztdAF142QeV9BDqMew%40mail.gmail.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CALY%3DcQCjpsnrgo_1jenzVJxamZEFNKWHztdAF142QeV9BDqMew%40mail.gmail.com) > . > For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAEM624aVcB7FdaVoWq5z0i61Omi8r7MsJcL26w6%2B7cnLn678cA%40mail.gmail.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAEM624aVcB7FdaVoWq5z0i61Omi8r7MsJcL26w6%2B7cnLn678cA%40mail.gmail.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). ---
**Author:** ![Ivan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/df788c/32.png) [@Ivan](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Ivan)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2014, 10:51pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/for-those-wanting-to-try-marvel/15459/3 "2014-01-28T22:51:12Z")
From my log: [2014-01-28 14:31:01,915][WARN][marvel.agent] Elasticsearch version [0.90.2] is too old. Marvel is disabled (requires version 0.90.8 or higher) [2014-01-28 14:31:01,921][INFO][plugins] [xxx] loaded [marvel, refresh-token-filters], sites [bigdesk, marvel, browser, head] On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Mark Walkom [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com)wrote: > The docs mention 0.90.9 and higher - > [Elasticsearch Platform — Find real-time answers at scale | Elastic](http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/en/marvel/current/#_system_requirements) > > Regards, > Mark Walkom > > Infrastructure Engineer > Campaign Monitor > email: [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com) > web: [www.campaignmonitor.com](http://www.campaignmonitor.com) > > On 29 January 2014 09:37, Ivan Brusic [ivan@brusic.com](mailto:ivan@brusic.com) wrote: > > > It is only supported with Elasticsearch 0.90.8 and higher. > > > > Yet another push for me to upgrade! > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "elasticsearch" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CALY%3DcQCjpsnrgo\_1jenzVJxamZEFNKWHztdAF142QeV9BDqMew%40mail.gmail.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CALY%3DcQCjpsnrgo_1jenzVJxamZEFNKWHztdAF142QeV9BDqMew%40mail.gmail.com) > > . > > For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "elasticsearch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). > To view this discussion on the web visit > [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAEM624aVcB7FdaVoWq5z0i61Omi8r7MsJcL26w6%2B7cnLn678cA%40mail.gmail.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAEM624aVcB7FdaVoWq5z0i61Omi8r7MsJcL26w6%2B7cnLn678cA%40mail.gmail.com) > . > For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CALY%3DcQAiQ%3D30YcMCwH7kgdtZc8FKwY8JZ3UqU5qEGfrNQk4G9g%40mail.gmail.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CALY%3DcQAiQ%3D30YcMCwH7kgdtZc8FKwY8JZ3UqU5qEGfrNQk4G9g%40mail.gmail.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). ---
**Author:** ![warkolm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/warkolm/32/39224_2.png) [@warkolm](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/warkolm)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2014, 10:52pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/for-those-wanting-to-try-marvel/15459/4 "2014-01-28T22:52:46Z")
Ahh, someone pointed out other discrepancies with the docs in the IRC channel as well, so I guess there are still a few bugs to work out! Regards, Mark Walkom Infrastructure Engineer Campaign Monitor email: [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com) web: [www.campaignmonitor.com](http://www.campaignmonitor.com) On 29 January 2014 09:51, Ivan Brusic [ivan@brusic.com](mailto:ivan@brusic.com) wrote: > From my log: > > [2014-01-28 14:31:01,915][WARN][marvel.agent] Elasticsearch > version [0.90.2] is too old. Marvel is disabled (requires version 0.90.8 or > higher) > [2014-01-28 14:31:01,921][INFO][plugins] [xxx] loaded > [marvel, refresh-token-filters], sites [bigdesk, marvel, browser, head] > > On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Mark Walkom [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com)wrote: > > > The docs mention 0.90.9 and higher - > > [Elasticsearch Platform — Find real-time answers at scale | Elastic](http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/en/marvel/current/#_system_requirements) > > > > Regards, > > Mark Walkom > > > > Infrastructure Engineer > > Campaign Monitor > > email: [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com) > > web: [www.campaignmonitor.com](http://www.campaignmonitor.com) > > > > On 29 January 2014 09:37, Ivan Brusic [ivan@brusic.com](mailto:ivan@brusic.com) wrote: > > > > > It is only supported with Elasticsearch 0.90.8 and higher. > > > > > > Yet another push for me to upgrade! > > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > Groups "elasticsearch" group. > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > > > an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). > > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > > [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CALY%3DcQCjpsnrgo\_1jenzVJxamZEFNKWHztdAF142QeV9BDqMew%40mail.gmail.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CALY%3DcQCjpsnrgo_1jenzVJxamZEFNKWHztdAF142QeV9BDqMew%40mail.gmail.com) > > > . > > > For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "elasticsearch" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAEM624aVcB7FdaVoWq5z0i61Omi8r7MsJcL26w6%2B7cnLn678cA%40mail.gmail.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAEM624aVcB7FdaVoWq5z0i61Omi8r7MsJcL26w6%2B7cnLn678cA%40mail.gmail.com) > > . > > For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "elasticsearch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). > To view this discussion on the web visit > [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CALY%3DcQAiQ%3D30YcMCwH7kgdtZc8FKwY8JZ3UqU5qEGfrNQk4G9g%40mail.gmail.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CALY%3DcQAiQ%3D30YcMCwH7kgdtZc8FKwY8JZ3UqU5qEGfrNQk4G9g%40mail.gmail.com) > . > For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAEM624avhH\_RtD0%3DazXMLkF%3DsLb6uAmvayTvUU%2BBz6f%2BCvCkoA%40mail.gmail.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAEM624avhH_RtD0%3DazXMLkF%3DsLb6uAmvayTvUU%2BBz6f%2BCvCkoA%40mail.gmail.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). ---
**Author:** ![Ivan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/df788c/32.png) [@Ivan](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Ivan)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2014, 11:09pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/for-those-wanting-to-try-marvel/15459/5 "2014-01-28T23:09:34Z")
I am sure there will be more than a few bugs to work out. 🙂 Not bashing their great work, that is how software works. Creating a new 0.90.10 instance right now. I have been pushing to upgrade for a while (no rolling restarts makes it harder to schedule upgrades), perhaps this would be the time. Ivan On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Mark Walkom [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com)wrote: > Ahh, someone pointed out other discrepancies with the docs in the IRC > channel as well, so I guess there are still a few bugs to work out! > > Regards, > Mark Walkom > > Infrastructure Engineer > Campaign Monitor > email: [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com) > web: [www.campaignmonitor.com](http://www.campaignmonitor.com) > > On 29 January 2014 09:51, Ivan Brusic [ivan@brusic.com](mailto:ivan@brusic.com) wrote: > > > From my log: > > > > [2014-01-28 14:31:01,915][WARN][marvel.agent] Elasticsearch > > version [0.90.2] is too old. Marvel is disabled (requires version 0.90.8 or > > higher) > > [2014-01-28 14:31:01,921][INFO][plugins] [xxx] loaded > > [marvel, refresh-token-filters], sites [bigdesk, marvel, browser, head] > > > > On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Mark Walkom [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com)wrote: > > > > > The docs mention 0.90.9 and higher - > > > [Elasticsearch Platform — Find real-time answers at scale | Elastic](http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/en/marvel/current/#_system_requirements) > > > > > > Regards, > > > Mark Walkom > > > > > > Infrastructure Engineer > > > Campaign Monitor > > > email: [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com) > > > web: [www.campaignmonitor.com](http://www.campaignmonitor.com) > > > > > > On 29 January 2014 09:37, Ivan Brusic [ivan@brusic.com](mailto:ivan@brusic.com) wrote: > > > > > > > It is only supported with Elasticsearch 0.90.8 and higher. > > > > > > > > Yet another push for me to upgrade! > > > > > > > > -- > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > > Groups "elasticsearch" group. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > > > > an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). > > > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > > > [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CALY%3DcQCjpsnrgo\_1jenzVJxamZEFNKWHztdAF142QeV9BDqMew%40mail.gmail.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CALY%3DcQCjpsnrgo_1jenzVJxamZEFNKWHztdAF142QeV9BDqMew%40mail.gmail.com) > > > > . > > > > For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). > > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > Groups "elasticsearch" group. > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > > > an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). > > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > > [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAEM624aVcB7FdaVoWq5z0i61Omi8r7MsJcL26w6%2B7cnLn678cA%40mail.gmail.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAEM624aVcB7FdaVoWq5z0i61Omi8r7MsJcL26w6%2B7cnLn678cA%40mail.gmail.com) > > > . > > > For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "elasticsearch" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CALY%3DcQAiQ%3D30YcMCwH7kgdtZc8FKwY8JZ3UqU5qEGfrNQk4G9g%40mail.gmail.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CALY%3DcQAiQ%3D30YcMCwH7kgdtZc8FKwY8JZ3UqU5qEGfrNQk4G9g%40mail.gmail.com) > > . > > > > For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "elasticsearch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). > To view this discussion on the web visit > [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAEM624avhH\_RtD0%3DazXMLkF%3DsLb6uAmvayTvUU%2BBz6f%2BCvCkoA%40mail.gmail.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAEM624avhH_RtD0%3DazXMLkF%3DsLb6uAmvayTvUU%2BBz6f%2BCvCkoA%40mail.gmail.com) > . > > For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. 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**Author:** ![Ivan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/df788c/32.png) [@Ivan](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Ivan)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2014, 12:08am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/for-those-wanting-to-try-marvel/15459/6 "2014-01-29T00:08:23Z")
My current code is not compatible with 0.90.10, so I will try again in the future. Still, great job. Couldn't convince the higher ups to use SPM, but perhaps self-hosted Marvel might be easier (although I wish the pricing was more transparent). -- Ivan On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 3:09 PM, Ivan Brusic [ivan@brusic.com](mailto:ivan@brusic.com) wrote: > I am sure there will be more than a few bugs to work out. 🙂 Not bashing > their great work, that is how software works. > > Creating a new 0.90.10 instance right now. I have been pushing to upgrade > for a while (no rolling restarts makes it harder to schedule upgrades), > perhaps this would be the time. > > Ivan > > On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Mark Walkom [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com)wrote: > > > Ahh, someone pointed out other discrepancies with the docs in the IRC > > channel as well, so I guess there are still a few bugs to work out! > > > > Regards, > > Mark Walkom > > > > Infrastructure Engineer > > Campaign Monitor > > email: [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com) > > web: [www.campaignmonitor.com](http://www.campaignmonitor.com) > > > > On 29 January 2014 09:51, Ivan Brusic [ivan@brusic.com](mailto:ivan@brusic.com) wrote: > > > > > From my log: > > > > > > [2014-01-28 14:31:01,915][WARN][marvel.agent] > > > Elasticsearch version [0.90.2] is too old. Marvel is disabled (requires > > > version 0.90.8 or higher) > > > [2014-01-28 14:31:01,921][INFO][plugins] [xxx] loaded > > > [marvel, refresh-token-filters], sites [bigdesk, marvel, browser, head] > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Mark Walkom [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com)wrote: > > > > > > > The docs mention 0.90.9 and higher - > > > > [Elasticsearch Platform — Find real-time answers at scale | Elastic](http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/en/marvel/current/#_system_requirements) > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Mark Walkom > > > > > > > > Infrastructure Engineer > > > > Campaign Monitor > > > > email: [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com) > > > > web: [www.campaignmonitor.com](http://www.campaignmonitor.com) > > > > > > > > On 29 January 2014 09:37, Ivan Brusic [ivan@brusic.com](mailto:ivan@brusic.com) wrote: > > > > > > > > > It is only supported with Elasticsearch 0.90.8 and higher. > > > > > > > > > > Yet another push for me to upgrade! > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > > > Groups "elasticsearch" group. > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > > > > > an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). > > > > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > > > > [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CALY%3DcQCjpsnrgo\_1jenzVJxamZEFNKWHztdAF142QeV9BDqMew%40mail.gmail.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CALY%3DcQCjpsnrgo_1jenzVJxamZEFNKWHztdAF142QeV9BDqMew%40mail.gmail.com) > > > > > . > > > > > For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). > > > > > > > > -- > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > > Groups "elasticsearch" group. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > > > > an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). > > > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > > > [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAEM624aVcB7FdaVoWq5z0i61Omi8r7MsJcL26w6%2B7cnLn678cA%40mail.gmail.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAEM624aVcB7FdaVoWq5z0i61Omi8r7MsJcL26w6%2B7cnLn678cA%40mail.gmail.com) > > > > . > > > > For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). > > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > Groups "elasticsearch" group. > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > > > an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). > > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > > [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CALY%3DcQAiQ%3D30YcMCwH7kgdtZc8FKwY8JZ3UqU5qEGfrNQk4G9g%40mail.gmail.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CALY%3DcQAiQ%3D30YcMCwH7kgdtZc8FKwY8JZ3UqU5qEGfrNQk4G9g%40mail.gmail.com) > > > . > > > > > > For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "elasticsearch" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAEM624avhH\_RtD0%3DazXMLkF%3DsLb6uAmvayTvUU%2BBz6f%2BCvCkoA%40mail.gmail.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAEM624avhH_RtD0%3DazXMLkF%3DsLb6uAmvayTvUU%2BBz6f%2BCvCkoA%40mail.gmail.com) > > . > > > > For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. 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**Author:** ![warkolm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/warkolm/32/39224_2.png) [@warkolm](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/warkolm)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2014, 12:15am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/for-those-wanting-to-try-marvel/15459/7 "2014-01-29T00:15:41Z")
I think something like this [GitHub - abronner/elasticsearch-monitoring: Cluster monitoring with elasticsearch and kibana](https://github.com/abronner/elasticsearch-monitoring) could be extended to include a lot of what is in Marvel. I've made a few changes to the way the the indexes are handled with this, which I've been meaning to properly fork and push back up. It'd be great if anyone else could look at what can be done with it if they are interested. Regards, Mark Walkom Infrastructure Engineer Campaign Monitor email: [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com) web: [www.campaignmonitor.com](http://www.campaignmonitor.com) On 29 January 2014 11:08, Ivan Brusic [ivan@brusic.com](mailto:ivan@brusic.com) wrote: > My current code is not compatible with 0.90.10, so I will try again in the > future. Still, great job. Couldn't convince the higher ups to use SPM, but > perhaps self-hosted Marvel might be easier (although I wish the pricing was > more transparent). > > -- > Ivan > > On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 3:09 PM, Ivan Brusic [ivan@brusic.com](mailto:ivan@brusic.com) wrote: > > > I am sure there will be more than a few bugs to work out. 🙂 Not bashing > > their great work, that is how software works. > > > > Creating a new 0.90.10 instance right now. I have been pushing to upgrade > > for a while (no rolling restarts makes it harder to schedule upgrades), > > perhaps this would be the time. > > > > Ivan > > > > On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Mark Walkom [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com)wrote: > > > > > Ahh, someone pointed out other discrepancies with the docs in the IRC > > > channel as well, so I guess there are still a few bugs to work out! > > > > > > Regards, > > > Mark Walkom > > > > > > Infrastructure Engineer > > > Campaign Monitor > > > email: [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com) > > > web: [www.campaignmonitor.com](http://www.campaignmonitor.com) > > > > > > On 29 January 2014 09:51, Ivan Brusic [ivan@brusic.com](mailto:ivan@brusic.com) wrote: > > > > > > > From my log: > > > > > > > > [2014-01-28 14:31:01,915][WARN][marvel.agent] > > > > Elasticsearch version [0.90.2] is too old. Marvel is disabled (requires > > > > version 0.90.8 or higher) > > > > [2014-01-28 14:31:01,921][INFO][plugins] [xxx] > > > > loaded [marvel, refresh-token-filters], sites [bigdesk, marvel, browser, > > > > head] > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Mark Walkom \<[markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com) > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > The docs mention 0.90.9 and higher - > > > > > [Elasticsearch Platform — Find real-time answers at scale | Elastic](http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/en/marvel/current/#_system_requirements) > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Mark Walkom > > > > > > > > > > Infrastructure Engineer > > > > > Campaign Monitor > > > > > email: [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com) > > > > > web: [www.campaignmonitor.com](http://www.campaignmonitor.com) > > > > > > > > > > On 29 January 2014 09:37, Ivan Brusic [ivan@brusic.com](mailto:ivan@brusic.com) wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > It is only supported with Elasticsearch 0.90.8 and higher. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yet another push for me to upgrade! > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > > > > Groups "elasticsearch" group. > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > > > > > > send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). > > > > > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > > > > > [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CALY%3DcQCjpsnrgo\_1jenzVJxamZEFNKWHztdAF142QeV9BDqMew%40mail.gmail.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CALY%3DcQCjpsnrgo_1jenzVJxamZEFNKWHztdAF142QeV9BDqMew%40mail.gmail.com) > > > > > > . > > > > > > For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > > > Groups "elasticsearch" group. > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > > > > > an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). > > > > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > > > > [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAEM624aVcB7FdaVoWq5z0i61Omi8r7MsJcL26w6%2B7cnLn678cA%40mail.gmail.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAEM624aVcB7FdaVoWq5z0i61Omi8r7MsJcL26w6%2B7cnLn678cA%40mail.gmail.com) > > > > > . > > > > > For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). > > > > > > > > -- > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > > Groups "elasticsearch" group. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > > > > an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). > > > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > > > [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CALY%3DcQAiQ%3D30YcMCwH7kgdtZc8FKwY8JZ3UqU5qEGfrNQk4G9g%40mail.gmail.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CALY%3DcQAiQ%3D30YcMCwH7kgdtZc8FKwY8JZ3UqU5qEGfrNQk4G9g%40mail.gmail.com) > > > > . > > > > > > > > For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). > > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > Groups "elasticsearch" group. > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > > > an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). > > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > > [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAEM624avhH\_RtD0%3DazXMLkF%3DsLb6uAmvayTvUU%2BBz6f%2BCvCkoA%40mail.gmail.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAEM624avhH_RtD0%3DazXMLkF%3DsLb6uAmvayTvUU%2BBz6f%2BCvCkoA%40mail.gmail.com) > > > . > > > > > > For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "elasticsearch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). > To view this discussion on the web visit > [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CALY%3DcQCBzWjAdC6TG0qykLVykGHLnDr%3DsEvpZVa7uPvvhE0O0Q%40mail.gmail.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CALY%3DcQCBzWjAdC6TG0qykLVykGHLnDr%3DsEvpZVa7uPvvhE0O0Q%40mail.gmail.com) > . > For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. 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**Author:** ![Ivan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/df788c/32.png) [@Ivan](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Ivan)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2014, 12:27am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/for-those-wanting-to-try-marvel/15459/8 "2014-01-29T00:27:09Z")
There is also [GitHub - elastic/elasticsearch-metrics-reporter-java: Metrics reporter, which reports to elasticsearch](https://github.com/elasticsearch/elasticsearch-metrics-reporter-java), but it does not seem to be as advanced graphically. I am currently pushing data to graphite. Would love to try out other tools, but then I realize I am not an ops guy. 🙂 Ivan On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Mark Walkom [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com)wrote: > I think something like this > [GitHub - abronner/elasticsearch-monitoring: Cluster monitoring with elasticsearch and kibana](https://github.com/abronner/elasticsearch-monitoring) could be extended to > include a lot of what is in Marvel. > > I've made a few changes to the way the the indexes are handled with this, > which I've been meaning to properly fork and push back up. It'd be great if > anyone else could look at what can be done with it if they are interested. > > Regards, > Mark Walkom > > Infrastructure Engineer > Campaign Monitor > email: [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com) > web: [www.campaignmonitor.com](http://www.campaignmonitor.com) > > On 29 January 2014 11:08, Ivan Brusic [ivan@brusic.com](mailto:ivan@brusic.com) wrote: > > > My current code is not compatible with 0.90.10, so I will try again in > > the future. Still, great job. Couldn't convince the higher ups to use SPM, > > but perhaps self-hosted Marvel might be easier (although I wish the pricing > > was more transparent). > > > > -- > > Ivan > > > > On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 3:09 PM, Ivan Brusic [ivan@brusic.com](mailto:ivan@brusic.com) wrote: > > > > > I am sure there will be more than a few bugs to work out. 🙂 Not bashing > > > their great work, that is how software works. > > > > > > Creating a new 0.90.10 instance right now. I have been pushing to > > > upgrade for a while (no rolling restarts makes it harder to schedule > > > upgrades), perhaps this would be the time. > > > > > > Ivan > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Mark Walkom [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com)wrote: > > > > > > > Ahh, someone pointed out other discrepancies with the docs in the IRC > > > > channel as well, so I guess there are still a few bugs to work out! > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Mark Walkom > > > > > > > > Infrastructure Engineer > > > > Campaign Monitor > > > > email: [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com) > > > > web: [www.campaignmonitor.com](http://www.campaignmonitor.com) > > > > > > > > On 29 January 2014 09:51, Ivan Brusic [ivan@brusic.com](mailto:ivan@brusic.com) wrote: > > > > > > > > > From my log: > > > > > > > > > > [2014-01-28 14:31:01,915][WARN][marvel.agent] > > > > > Elasticsearch version [0.90.2] is too old. Marvel is disabled (requires > > > > > version 0.90.8 or higher) > > > > > [2014-01-28 14:31:01,921][INFO][plugins] [xxx] > > > > > loaded [marvel, refresh-token-filters], sites [bigdesk, marvel, browser, > > > > > head] > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Mark Walkom \< > > > > > [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com)\> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > The docs mention 0.90.9 and higher - > > > > > > [Elasticsearch Platform — Find real-time answers at scale | Elastic](http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/en/marvel/current/#_system_requirements) > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Mark Walkom > > > > > > > > > > > > Infrastructure Engineer > > > > > > Campaign Monitor > > > > > > email: [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com) > > > > > > web: [www.campaignmonitor.com](http://www.campaignmonitor.com) > > > > > > > > > > > > On 29 January 2014 09:37, Ivan Brusic [ivan@brusic.com](mailto:ivan@brusic.com) wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is only supported with Elasticsearch 0.90.8 and higher. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yet another push for me to upgrade! 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**Author:** ![jprante](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/jprante/32/44941_2.png) [@jprante](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/jprante)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2014, 1:21am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/for-those-wanting-to-try-marvel/15459/9 "2014-01-29T01:21:09Z")
Marvel comes with hidden Java plugin code for an event pusher. Node events, route events, and shard events of ES can be indexed into ES. Very useful for historic analysis and post mortem views. It seems this was also a motivation for the tribe node mode: grow two separate clusters, one for the data, another one for the metrics. It would be nice if also the event pushing source code could be opened, so other monitoring tools are able to build on this facility too. Or at least documenting the event pushing API, for re-implementing it from scratch. Jörg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAKdsXoG-JaWZU4qFQsUaM\_UHCwkzMdYnLruUHNmcnkiZ-wX6jA%40mail.gmail.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAKdsXoG-JaWZU4qFQsUaM_UHCwkzMdYnLruUHNmcnkiZ-wX6jA%40mail.gmail.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). ---
**Author:** ![warkolm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/warkolm/32/39224_2.png) [@warkolm](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/warkolm)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2014, 1:33am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/for-those-wanting-to-try-marvel/15459/10 "2014-01-29T01:33:29Z")
Or perhaps something could come from the new cat API if they don't want to go that route. Regards, Mark Walkom Infrastructure Engineer Campaign Monitor email: [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com) web: [www.campaignmonitor.com](http://www.campaignmonitor.com) On 29 January 2014 12:21, [joergprante@gmail.com](mailto:joergprante@gmail.com) [joergprante@gmail.com](mailto:joergprante@gmail.com)wrote: > Marvel comes with hidden Java plugin code for an event pusher. Node > events, route events, and shard events of ES can be indexed into ES. Very > useful for historic analysis and post mortem views. > > It seems this was also a motivation for the tribe node mode: grow two > separate clusters, one for the data, another one for the metrics. > > It would be nice if also the event pushing source code could be opened, so > other monitoring tools are able to build on this facility too. Or at least > documenting the event pushing API, for re-implementing it from scratch. > > Jörg > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "elasticsearch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). > To view this discussion on the web visit > [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAKdsXoG-JaWZU4qFQsUaM\_UHCwkzMdYnLruUHNmcnkiZ-wX6jA%40mail.gmail.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAKdsXoG-JaWZU4qFQsUaM_UHCwkzMdYnLruUHNmcnkiZ-wX6jA%40mail.gmail.com) > . > For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAEM624Yn5y1bxGYd%3DjeG%3DiUVzowhOsuzKi\_8erKrPEmTNbxb%3DQ%40mail.gmail.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAEM624Yn5y1bxGYd%3DjeG%3DiUVzowhOsuzKi_8erKrPEmTNbxb%3DQ%40mail.gmail.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). ---
**Author:** ![Ivan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/df788c/32.png) [@Ivan](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Ivan)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2014, 1:42am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/for-those-wanting-to-try-marvel/15459/11 "2014-01-29T01:42:10Z")
Marvel doesn't different much from elasticsearch plugins in that the code now runs in the same JVM instead of a separate process. The event data is pushed rather than pulled. It is great not having to re-invent the wheel, but having monitoring outside of elasticsearch is not an issue. Great observation about the tribe node BTW. Given that efficient JSON parsing libraries exist in most languages, I rather go that route over the cat API. Time to re-visit monitoring. Ivan On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 5:33 PM, Mark Walkom [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com)wrote: > Or perhaps something could come from the new cat API if they don't want to > go that route. > > Regards, > Mark Walkom > > Infrastructure Engineer > Campaign Monitor > email: [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com) > web: [www.campaignmonitor.com](http://www.campaignmonitor.com) > > On 29 January 2014 12:21, [joergprante@gmail.com](mailto:joergprante@gmail.com) [joergprante@gmail.com](mailto:joergprante@gmail.com)wrote: > > > Marvel comes with hidden Java plugin code for an event pusher. Node > > events, route events, and shard events of ES can be indexed into ES. Very > > useful for historic analysis and post mortem views. > > > > It seems this was also a motivation for the tribe node mode: grow two > > separate clusters, one for the data, another one for the metrics. > > > > It would be nice if also the event pushing source code could be opened, > > so other monitoring tools are able to build on this facility too. Or at > > least documenting the event pushing API, for re-implementing it from > > scratch. > > > > Jörg > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "elasticsearch" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAKdsXoG-JaWZU4qFQsUaM\_UHCwkzMdYnLruUHNmcnkiZ-wX6jA%40mail.gmail.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAKdsXoG-JaWZU4qFQsUaM_UHCwkzMdYnLruUHNmcnkiZ-wX6jA%40mail.gmail.com) > > . > > For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "elasticsearch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). > To view this discussion on the web visit > [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAEM624Yn5y1bxGYd%3DjeG%3DiUVzowhOsuzKi\_8erKrPEmTNbxb%3DQ%40mail.gmail.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAEM624Yn5y1bxGYd%3DjeG%3DiUVzowhOsuzKi_8erKrPEmTNbxb%3DQ%40mail.gmail.com) > . > > For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CALY%3DcQD%3Dh804DJBr2J8V3gDvkSK0ddXHvg0xDBf9XYzUza\_n5w%40mail.gmail.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CALY%3DcQD%3Dh804DJBr2J8V3gDvkSK0ddXHvg0xDBf9XYzUza_n5w%40mail.gmail.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). ---
**Author:** ![Lukas\_Vlcek1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/lukas_vlcek1/32/819_2.png) [@Lukas\_Vlcek1](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Lukas_Vlcek1)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2014, 4:02am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/for-those-wanting-to-try-marvel/15459/12 "2014-01-29T04:02:50Z")
If my memory serves me well one of the issues with plugins is missing classloading isolation. If you have two plugins installed on a single node they can clash (we have been hit by this with our own plugins and it took us some time to figure it out because the symptom was not deterministic). If Marvel contains Java code that is installed as a plugin it would be imo useful if the code were a bit more transparent, especially for plugin developers. Regards, Lukáš On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 2:42 AM, Ivan Brusic [ivan@brusic.com](mailto:ivan@brusic.com) wrote: > Marvel doesn't different much from elasticsearch plugins in that the code > now runs in the same JVM instead of a separate process. The event data is > pushed rather than pulled. It is great not having to re-invent the wheel, > but having monitoring outside of elasticsearch is not an issue. Great > observation about the tribe node BTW. > > Given that efficient JSON parsing libraries exist in most languages, I > rather go that route over the cat API. Time to re-visit monitoring. > > Ivan > > On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 5:33 PM, Mark Walkom [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com)wrote: > > > Or perhaps something could come from the new cat API if they don't want > > to go that route. > > > > Regards, > > Mark Walkom > > > > Infrastructure Engineer > > Campaign Monitor > > email: [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com) > > web: [www.campaignmonitor.com](http://www.campaignmonitor.com) > > > > On 29 January 2014 12:21, [joergprante@gmail.com](mailto:joergprante@gmail.com) [joergprante@gmail.com](mailto:joergprante@gmail.com)wrote: > > > > > Marvel comes with hidden Java plugin code for an event pusher. Node > > > events, route events, and shard events of ES can be indexed into ES. Very > > > useful for historic analysis and post mortem views. > > > > > > It seems this was also a motivation for the tribe node mode: grow two > > > separate clusters, one for the data, another one for the metrics. > > > > > > It would be nice if also the event pushing source code could be opened, > > > so other monitoring tools are able to build on this facility too. 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**Author:** ![Roy\_Russo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/roy_russo/32/44835_2.png) [@Roy\_Russo](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Roy_Russo)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2014, 4:28am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/for-those-wanting-to-try-marvel/15459/13 "2014-01-29T04:28:24Z")
Although I agree with the code transparency in principle, it isn't a sound business idea. Scaling an OSS company on support/services revenue alone is very linear and that's not something investors want. You also risk becoming a consulting company, rather than a software distributor. In the end, all successful OSS companies have a commercial component. This is ES's first stab at it and I think it's a good one. On Tuesday, January 28, 2014 11:02:50 PM UTC-5, Lukáš Vlček wrote: > If my memory serves me well one of the issues with plugins is missing > classloading isolation. If you have two plugins installed on a single node > they can clash (we have been hit by this with our own plugins and it took > us some time to figure it out because the symptom was not deterministic). > If Marvel contains Java code that is installed as a plugin it would be imo > useful if the code were a bit more transparent, especially for plugin > developers. > > Regards, > Lukáš > > On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 2:42 AM, Ivan Brusic \<[iv...@brusic.com](mailto:iv...@brusic.com)\ > > > wrote: > > > Marvel doesn't different much from elasticsearch plugins in that the code > > now runs in the same JVM instead of a separate process. The event data is > > pushed rather than pulled. It is great not having to re-invent the wheel, > > but having monitoring outside of elasticsearch is not an issue. Great > > observation about the tribe node BTW. > > > > Given that efficient JSON parsing libraries exist in most languages, I > > rather go that route over the cat API. Time to re-visit monitoring. > > > > Ivan > > > > On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 5:33 PM, Mark Walkom \<[ma...@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:ma...@campaignmonitor.com)\ > > > > > wrote: > > > > > Or perhaps something could come from the new cat API if they don't want > > > to go that route. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Mark Walkom > > > > > > Infrastructure Engineer > > > Campaign Monitor > > > email: [ma...@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:ma...@campaignmonitor.com) \ > > > web: [www.campaignmonitor.com](http://www.campaignmonitor.com) > > > > > > On 29 January 2014 12:21, [joerg...@gmail.com](mailto:joerg...@gmail.com) \ \< > > > [joerg...@gmail.com](mailto:joerg...@gmail.com) \\> wrote: > > > > > > > Marvel comes with hidden Java plugin code for an event pusher. Node > > > > events, route events, and shard events of ES can be indexed into ES. Very > > > > useful for historic analysis and post mortem views. > > > > > > > > It seems this was also a motivation for the tribe node mode: grow two > > > > separate clusters, one for the data, another one for the metrics. > > > > > > > > It would be nice if also the event pushing source code could be opened, > > > > so other monitoring tools are able to build on this facility too. 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**Author:** ![Ivan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/df788c/32.png) [@Ivan](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Ivan)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2014, 5:53pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/for-those-wanting-to-try-marvel/15459/14 "2014-01-29T17:53:25Z")
I shouldn't comment about the viability of various revenue generating opportunities since I have no experience in such matters. To me, Marvel seems like a value-add for customers choosing the support subscription. Here is an exclusive software package for signing up. I would be curious to see if many sign up just for Marvel and not the whole kit and kaboodle. As far as the code goes, it would be nice to see some of it opened up. The publishing of event data should be pluggable for those that might want to add a step before indexing into elasticsearch. Perhaps multiple clusters can publish to redis/kafka which then is read by the actual Marvel cluster. Is the value in the Java side code or the Kibana side? Many of us have managed with compiling metrics in one way or another, but perhaps those metrics are not display with a focus on elasticsearch (mine aren't). -- Ivan On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 8:28 PM, Roy Russo [royrusso@gmail.com](mailto:royrusso@gmail.com) wrote: > Although I agree with the code transparency in principle, it isn't a sound > business idea. Scaling an OSS company on support/services revenue alone is > very linear and that's not something investors want. You also risk becoming > a consulting company, rather than a software distributor. > > In the end, all successful OSS companies have a commercial component. This > is ES's first stab at it and I think it's a good one. > > On Tuesday, January 28, 2014 11:02:50 PM UTC-5, Lukáš Vlček wrote: > > > If my memory serves me well one of the issues with plugins is missing > > classloading isolation. If you have two plugins installed on a single node > > they can clash (we have been hit by this with our own plugins and it took > > us some time to figure it out because the symptom was not deterministic). > > If Marvel contains Java code that is installed as a plugin it would be imo > > useful if the code were a bit more transparent, especially for plugin > > developers. > > > > Regards, > > Lukáš > > > > On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 2:42 AM, Ivan Brusic [iv...@brusic.com](mailto:iv...@brusic.com) wrote: > > > > > Marvel doesn't different much from elasticsearch plugins in that the > > > code now runs in the same JVM instead of a separate process. The event data > > > is pushed rather than pulled. It is great not having to re-invent the > > > wheel, but having monitoring outside of elasticsearch is not an issue. > > > Great observation about the tribe node BTW. > > > > > > Given that efficient JSON parsing libraries exist in most languages, I > > > rather go that route over the cat API. Time to re-visit monitoring. > > > > > > Ivan > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 5:33 PM, Mark Walkom [ma...@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:ma...@campaignmonitor.com)wrote: > > > > > > > Or perhaps something could come from the new cat API if they don't want > > > > to go that route. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Mark Walkom > > > > > > > > Infrastructure Engineer > > > > Campaign Monitor > > > > email: [ma...@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:ma...@campaignmonitor.com) > > > > web: [www.campaignmonitor.com](http://www.campaignmonitor.com) > > > > > > > > On 29 January 2014 12:21, [joerg...@gmail.com](mailto:joerg...@gmail.com) [joerg...@gmail.com](mailto:joerg...@gmail.com)wrote: > > > > > > > > > Marvel comes with hidden Java plugin code for an event pusher. Node > > > > > events, route events, and shard events of ES can be indexed into ES. Very > > > > > useful for historic analysis and post mortem views. > > > > > > > > > > It seems this was also a motivation for the tribe node mode: grow two > > > > > separate clusters, one for the data, another one for the metrics. > > > > > > > > > > It would be nice if also the event pushing source code could be > > > > > opened, so other monitoring tools are able to build on this facility too. > > > > > Or at least documenting the event pushing API, for re-implementing it from > > > > > scratch. > > > > > > > > > > Jörg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CALY%3DcQADV5z5mVHsZAfSuw%2Bn5kOQ5-V5AcWX%3DWk\_2c4wWLf%2BeA%40mail.gmail.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CALY%3DcQADV5z5mVHsZAfSuw%2Bn5kOQ5-V5AcWX%3DWk_2c4wWLf%2BeA%40mail.gmail.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). ---
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