# Fresh Install if ELK 7.10 floods deprecation log

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/fresh-install-if-elk-7-10-floods-deprecation-log/259821>\
**Category:** Elasticsearch\
**Created:** [December 29, 2020, 7:15pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/fresh-install-if-elk-7-10-floods-deprecation-log/259821 "2020-12-29T19:15:29Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![JSylvia007](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/jsylvia007/32/81528_2.png) [@JSylvia007](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/JSylvia007)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2020, 7:15pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/fresh-install-if-elk-7-10-floods-deprecation-log/259821/1 "2020-12-29T19:15:29Z")

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A fresh install of ELK 7.10 fills the deprecation log once Kibana is installed.

```
[2020-12-29T14:12:46,624][DEPRECATION][o.e.d.a.a.i.a.g.TransportGetAliasesAction] [app01] this request accesses system indices: [.kibana_1], but in a future major version, direct access to system indices will be prevented by default
[2020-12-29T14:12:46,977][DEPRECATION][o.e.d.c.m.IndexNameExpressionResolver] [app01] this request accesses system indices: [.kibana_1], but in a future major version, direct access to system indices will be prevented by default

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In the JSON log they are de-duplicated, but in the plaintext log they generate several per second.

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**Author:** ![warkolm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/warkolm/32/39224_2.png) [@warkolm](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/warkolm)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2020, 9:48pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/fresh-install-if-elk-7-10-floods-deprecation-log/259821/2 "2020-12-30T21:48:34Z")

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Welcome to our community! 😃

Do you want to disable this, or are you looking for something else?

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**Author:** ![JSylvia007](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/jsylvia007/32/81528_2.png) [@JSylvia007](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/JSylvia007)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2020, 10:05pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/fresh-install-if-elk-7-10-floods-deprecation-log/259821/3 "2020-12-30T22:05:39Z")

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Well, I would have expected that on a clean install that the elastic components themselves would not be using deprecated features. Additionally, Why are they spamming? Shouldn't they be deduplicated like they are in the .json version?

I've seen all over the place that it's bad practice to disable the deprecation log, so I don't think that's the right answer. Is there a way to disable the .log version but keep the .json version so that they don't cause excessive writes to the disk as they spam like crazy?

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**Author:** ![DavidTurner](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/davidturner/32/22453_2.png) [@DavidTurner](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/DavidTurner)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2020, 10:31pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/fresh-install-if-elk-7-10-floods-deprecation-log/259821/4 "2020-12-30T22:31:05Z")

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> [@JSylvia007](#):
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> Well, I would have expected that on a clean install that the elastic components themselves would not be using deprecated features.

That sounds like a reasonable expectation, I suggest you ask the Kibana folks about this. The deprecation seems to have been added just before feature freeze so maybe it slipped through the net.

> [@JSylvia007](#):
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> Why are they spamming?

That's also a good question. These messages are deduplicated, but not if they all use different `X-Opaque-Id` headers. Perhaps that's what is happening?

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**Author:** ![JSylvia007](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/jsylvia007/32/81528_2.png) [@JSylvia007](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/JSylvia007)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2020, 10:43pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/fresh-install-if-elk-7-10-floods-deprecation-log/259821/5 "2020-12-30T22:43:35Z")

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> [@DavidTurner](#):
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> That's also a good question. These messages are deduplicated, but not if they all use different `X-Opaque-Id` headers. Perhaps that's what is happening?

How can I get that information from the log? I'd love to help troubleshoot.

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**Author:** ![DavidTurner](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/davidturner/32/22453_2.png) [@DavidTurner](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/DavidTurner)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2020, 3:57pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/fresh-install-if-elk-7-10-floods-deprecation-log/259821/6 "2020-12-31T15:57:26Z")

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Weirdly I think the `X-Opaque-Id` header is logged, but only in the JSON output. I don't really understand how to align what you've reported with what I'm reading in the code, but this isn't an area with which I'm very familiar so I'm sure it makes sense to someone else.

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**Author:** ![JSylvia007](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/jsylvia007/32/81528_2.png) [@JSylvia007](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/JSylvia007)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2020, 4:17pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/fresh-install-if-elk-7-10-floods-deprecation-log/259821/7 "2020-12-31T16:17:36Z")

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Hopefully someone from the Kibana team sees this. I haven't figured out how to add that tag to this post.

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**Author:** ![DavidTurner](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/davidturner/32/22453_2.png) [@DavidTurner](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/DavidTurner)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2020, 4:20pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/fresh-install-if-elk-7-10-floods-deprecation-log/259821/8 "2020-12-31T16:20:04Z")

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Ah I meant that I was suggesting opening a thread on the [Kibana forum](https://discuss.elastic.co/c/elastic-stack/kibana/7).

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**Author:** ![JSylvia007](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/jsylvia007/32/81528_2.png) [@JSylvia007](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/JSylvia007)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2020, 4:38pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/fresh-install-if-elk-7-10-floods-deprecation-log/259821/10 "2020-12-31T16:38:49Z")

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Done and done: [Fresh Install if ELK 7.10 floods deprecation log](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/fresh-install-if-elk-7-10-floods-deprecation-log/259972)

😀

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2021, 4:38pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/fresh-install-if-elk-7-10-floods-deprecation-log/259821/11 "2021-01-28T16:38:50Z")

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