# Fresh Install if ELK 7.10 floods deprecation log

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/fresh-install-if-elk-7-10-floods-deprecation-log/259972>\
**Category:** Kibana\
**Created:** [December 31, 2020, 4:36pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/fresh-install-if-elk-7-10-floods-deprecation-log/259972 "2020-12-31T16:36:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![JSylvia007](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/jsylvia007/32/81528_2.png) [@JSylvia007](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/JSylvia007)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2020, 4:36pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/fresh-install-if-elk-7-10-floods-deprecation-log/259972/1 "2020-12-31T16:36:49Z")

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Originally posted here: [Fresh Install if ELK 7.10 floods deprecation log](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/fresh-install-if-elk-7-10-floods-deprecation-log/259821) and at the recommendation of @DavidTurner creating a new post here...

A fresh install of ELK 7.10 fills the deprecation log once Kibana is installed.

```auto
[2020-12-29T14:12:46,624][DEPRECATION][o.e.d.a.a.i.a.g.TransportGetAliasesAction] [app01] this request accesses system indices: [.kibana_1], but in a future major version, direct access to system indices will be prevented by default
[2020-12-29T14:12:46,977][DEPRECATION][o.e.d.c.m.IndexNameExpressionResolver] [app01] this request accesses system indices: [.kibana_1], but in a future major version, direct access to system indices will be prevented by default

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In the JSON log they are de-duplicated, but in the plaintext log they generate several per second.

Note that originally I had an install of the "OSS" version, then completely removed that, and switched to the main version which generates many more indexes that start with a dot (.). Examples include:

> .apm-agent-configuration, .apm-custom-link, .async-search, .kibana\_1, .kibana\_2, .kibana\_task\_manager\_1

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**Author:** ![markov00](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/markov00/32/33316_2.png) [@markov00](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/markov00)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 3:06pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/fresh-install-if-elk-7-10-floods-deprecation-log/259972/2 "2021-01-11T15:06:42Z")

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Hi Jacob,  
Are you running 7.10.0 or 7.10.1?  
Do these errors appear only when you use a specific Kibana application or independently from what you are looking for?  
Is there any chance that a parallel but older Kibana server is running in the background?  
I've tested locally with a fresh 7.10.1 installation of ES and Kibana, but I can't see any of those deprecation logs.  
Have you configured anything in particular? installed third party plugins or using an external application that uses ES?

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**Author:** ![JSylvia007](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/jsylvia007/32/81528_2.png) [@JSylvia007](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/JSylvia007)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 4:20pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/fresh-install-if-elk-7-10-floods-deprecation-log/259972/3 "2021-01-11T16:20:11Z")

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Are you running 7.10.0 or 7.10.1?  
--As of right now, it's 7.10.1 (I ran an update on Saturday, so I'm not sure if what I started with was this version, but the issue is still happening.)

Do these errors appear only when you use a specific Kibana application or independently from what you are looking for?  
--These errors were (and still are happening) with ONLY a bare ElasticSearch and Kibana install. I hadn't even configured data inputs at that point, although now I have added them,

Is there any chance that a parallel but older Kibana server is running in the background?  
--There is only one version of Kibana running in my environment.

Have you configured anything in particular? installed third party plugins or using an external application that uses ES?  
--As of right now, I also have Cerebro, Graylog 4 and Grafana. None of these specifically reference those particular indices from what I can tell. That being said, when I tore everything down and started fresh, all I had was ElasticSearch and Kibana, and those issues were present with literally nothing else installed.

My logs now look like this:

```auto
[2021-01-11T11:16:41,955][DEPRECATION][o.e.d.c.m.IndexNameExpressionResolver] [app01] this request accesses system indices: [.apm-agent-configuration, .apm-custom-link, .async-search, .kibana_1, .kibana_2, .kibana_task_manager_1], but in a future major version, direct access to system indices will be prevented by default
[2021-01-11T11:16:42,084][DEPRECATION][o.e.d.c.m.IndexNameExpressionResolver] [app01] this request accesses system indices: [.apm-agent-configuration, .apm-custom-link, .async-search, .kibana_1, .kibana_2, .kibana_task_manager_1], but in a future major version, direct access to system indices will be prevented by default
[2021-01-11T11:16:46,344][DEPRECATION][o.e.d.c.m.IndexNameExpressionResolver] [app01] this request accesses system indices: [.apm-agent-configuration, .apm-custom-link, .async-search, .kibana_1, .kibana_2, .kibana_task_manager_1], but in a future major version, direct access to system indices will be prevented by default
[2021-01-11T11:16:46,345][DEPRECATION][o.e.d.c.m.IndexNameExpressionResolver] [app01] this request accesses system indices: [.apm-agent-configuration, .apm-custom-link, .async-search, .kibana_1, .kibana_2, .kibana_task_manager_1], but in a future major version, direct access to system indices will be prevented by default
[2021-01-11T11:16:46,348][DEPRECATION][o.e.d.c.m.IndexNameExpressionResolver] [app01] this request accesses system indices: [.apm-agent-configuration, .apm-custom-link, .async-search, .kibana_1, .kibana_2, .kibana_task_manager_1], but in a future major version, direct access to system indices will be prevented by default
[2021-01-11T11:16:46,348][DEPRECATION][o.e.d.c.m.IndexNameExpressionResolver] [app01] this request accesses system indices: [.apm-agent-configuration, .apm-custom-link, .async-search, .kibana_1, .kibana_2, .kibana_task_manager_1], but in a future major version, direct access to system indices will be prevented by default
[2021-01-11T11:16:46,351][DEPRECATION][o.e.d.c.m.IndexNameExpressionResolver] [app01] this request accesses system indices: [.apm-agent-configuration, .apm-custom-link, .async-search, .kibana_1, .kibana_2, .kibana_task_manager_1], but in a future major version, direct access to system indices will be prevented by default
[2021-01-11T11:16:46,352][DEPRECATION][o.e.d.c.m.IndexNameExpressionResolver] [app01] this request accesses system indices: [.apm-agent-configuration, .apm-custom-link, .async-search, .kibana_1, .kibana_2, .kibana_task_manager_1], but in a future major version, direct access to system indices will be prevented by default
[2021-01-11T11:16:46,355][DEPRECATION][o.e.d.c.m.IndexNameExpressionResolver] [app01] this request accesses system indices: [.apm-agent-configuration, .apm-custom-link, .async-search, .kibana_1, .kibana_2, .kibana_task_manager_1], but in a future major version, direct access to system indices will be prevented by default
[2021-01-11T11:16:46,356][DEPRECATION][o.e.d.c.m.IndexNameExpressionResolver] [app01] this request accesses system indices: [.apm-agent-configuration, .apm-custom-link, .async-search, .kibana_1, .kibana_2, .kibana_task_manager_1], but in a future major version, direct access to system indices will be prevented by default
[2021-01-11T11:16:46,955][DEPRECATION][o.e.d.c.m.IndexNameExpressionResolver] [app01] this request accesses system indices: [.apm-agent-configuration, .apm-custom-link, .async-search, .kibana_1, .kibana_2, .kibana_task_manager_1], but in a future major version, direct access to system indices will be prevented by default
[2021-01-11T11:16:47,084][DEPRECATION][o.e.d.c.m.IndexNameExpressionResolver] [app01] this request accesses system indices: [.apm-agent-configuration, .apm-custom-link, .async-search, .kibana_1, .kibana_2, .kibana_task_manager_1], but in a future major version, direct access to system indices will be prevented by default
[2021-01-11T11:16:51,955][DEPRECATION][o.e.d.c.m.IndexNameExpressionResolver] [app01] this request accesses system indices: [.apm-agent-configuration, .apm-custom-link, .async-search, .kibana_1, .kibana_2, .kibana_task_manager_1], but in a future major version, direct access to system indices will be prevented by default
[2021-01-11T11:16:52,084][DEPRECATION][o.e.d.c.m.IndexNameExpressionResolver] [app01] this request accesses system indices: [.apm-agent-configuration, .apm-custom-link, .async-search, .kibana_1, .kibana_2, .kibana_task_manager_1], but in a future major version, direct access to system indices will be prevented by default
[2021-01-11T11:16:56,343][DEPRECATION][o.e.d.c.m.IndexNameExpressionResolver] [app01] this request accesses system indices: [.apm-agent-configuration, .apm-custom-link, .async-search, .kibana_1, .kibana_2, .kibana_task_manager_1], but in a future major version, direct access to system indices will be prevented by default
[2021-01-11T11:16:56,345][DEPRECATION][o.e.d.c.m.IndexNameExpressionResolver] [app01] this request accesses system indices: [.apm-agent-configuration, .apm-custom-link, .async-search, .kibana_1, .kibana_2, .kibana_task_manager_1], but in a future major version, direct access to system indices will be prevented by default
[2021-01-11T11:16:56,350][DEPRECATION][o.e.d.c.m.IndexNameExpressionResolver] [app01] this request accesses system indices: [.apm-agent-configuration, .apm-custom-link, .async-search, .kibana_1, .kibana_2, .kibana_task_manager_1], but in a future major version, direct access to system indices will be prevented by default
[2021-01-11T11:16:56,351][DEPRECATION][o.e.d.c.m.IndexNameExpressionResolver] [app01] this request accesses system indices: [.apm-agent-configuration, .apm-custom-link, .async-search, .kibana_1, .kibana_2, .kibana_task_manager_1], but in a future major version, direct access to system indices will be prevented by default
[2021-01-11T11:16:56,354][DEPRECATION][o.e.d.c.m.IndexNameExpressionResolver] [app01] this request accesses system indices: [.apm-agent-configuration, .apm-custom-link, .async-search, .kibana_1, .kibana_2, .kibana_task_manager_1], but in a future major version, direct access to system indices will be prevented by default
[2021-01-11T11:16:56,355][DEPRECATION][o.e.d.c.m.IndexNameExpressionResolver] [app01] this request accesses system indices: [.apm-agent-configuration, .apm-custom-link, .async-search, .kibana_1, .kibana_2, .kibana_task_manager_1], but in a future major version, direct access to system indices will be prevented by default
[2021-01-11T11:16:56,358][DEPRECATION][o.e.d.c.m.IndexNameExpressionResolver] [app01] this request accesses system indices: [.apm-agent-configuration, .apm-custom-link, .async-search, .kibana_1, .kibana_2, .kibana_task_manager_1], but in a future major version, direct access to system indices will be prevented by default
[2021-01-11T11:16:56,359][DEPRECATION][o.e.d.c.m.IndexNameExpressionResolver] [app01] this request accesses system indices: [.apm-agent-configuration, .apm-custom-link, .async-search, .kibana_1, .kibana_2, .kibana_task_manager_1], but in a future major version, direct access to system indices will be prevented by default
[2021-01-11T11:16:56,955][DEPRECATION][o.e.d.c.m.IndexNameExpressionResolver] [app01] this request accesses system indices: [.apm-agent-configuration, .apm-custom-link, .async-search, .kibana_1, .kibana_2, .kibana_task_manager_1], but in a future major version, direct access to system indices will be prevented by default
[2021-01-11T11:16:57,084][DEPRECATION][o.e.d.c.m.IndexNameExpressionResolver] [app01] this request accesses system indices: [.apm-agent-configuration, .apm-custom-link, .async-search, .kibana_1, .kibana_2, .kibana_task_manager_1], but in a future major version, direct access to system indices will be prevented by default
[2021-01-11T11:17:01,955][DEPRECATION][o.e.d.c.m.IndexNameExpressionResolver] [app01] this request accesses system indices: [.apm-agent-configuration, .apm-custom-link, .async-search, .kibana_1, .kibana_2, .kibana_task_manager_1], but in a future major version, direct access to system indices will be prevented by default
[2021-01-11T11:17:02,084][DEPRECATION][o.e.d.c.m.IndexNameExpressionResolver] [app01] this request accesses system indices: [.apm-agent-configuration, .apm-custom-link, .async-search, .kibana_1, .kibana_2, .kibana_task_manager_1], but in a future major version, direct access to system indices will be prevented by default
[2021-01-11T11:17:06,346][DEPRECATION][o.e.d.c.m.IndexNameExpressionResolver] [app01] this request accesses system indices: [.apm-agent-configuration, .apm-custom-link, .async-search, .kibana_1, .kibana_2, .kibana_task_manager_1], but in a future major version, direct access to system indices will be prevented by default
[2021-01-11T11:17:06,347][DEPRECATION][o.e.d.c.m.IndexNameExpressionResolver] [app01] this request accesses system indices: [.apm-agent-configuration, .apm-custom-link, .async-search, .kibana_1, .kibana_2, .kibana_task_manager_1], but in a future major version, direct access to system indices will be prevented by default
[2021-01-11T11:17:06,350][DEPRECATION][o.e.d.c.m.IndexNameExpressionResolver] [app01] this request accesses system indices: [.apm-agent-configuration, .apm-custom-link, .async-search, .kibana_1, .kibana_2, .kibana_task_manager_1], but in a future major version, direct access to system indices will be prevented by default
[2021-01-11T11:17:06,351][DEPRECATION][o.e.d.c.m.IndexNameExpressionResolver] [app01] this request accesses system indices: [.apm-agent-configuration, .apm-custom-link, .async-search, .kibana_1, .kibana_2, .kibana_task_manager_1], but in a future major version, direct access to system indices will be prevented by default
[2021-01-11T11:17:06,354][DEPRECATION][o.e.d.c.m.IndexNameExpressionResolver] [app01] this request accesses system indices: [.apm-agent-configuration, .apm-custom-link, .async-search, .kibana_1, .kibana_2, .kibana_task_manager_1], but in a future major version, direct access to system indices will be prevented by default
[2021-01-11T11:17:06,355][DEPRECATION][o.e.d.c.m.IndexNameExpressionResolver] [app01] this request accesses system indices: [.apm-agent-configuration, .apm-custom-link, .async-search, .kibana_1, .kibana_2, .kibana_task_manager_1], but in a future major version, direct access to system indices will be prevented by default
[2021-01-11T11:17:06,358][DEPRECATION][o.e.d.c.m.IndexNameExpressionResolver] [app01] this request accesses system indices: [.apm-agent-configuration, .apm-custom-link, .async-search, .kibana_1, .kibana_2, .kibana_task_manager_1], but in a future major version, direct access to system indices will be prevented by default

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**Post date:** [February 8, 2021, 4:20pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/fresh-install-if-elk-7-10-floods-deprecation-log/259972/4 "2021-02-08T16:20:14Z")

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