# GET /\_cat/indices not showing all indices after upgrade to 7.3

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/get-cat-indices-not-showing-all-indices-after-upgrade-to-7-3/366123>\
**Category:** Elasticsearch\
**Created:** [September 5, 2024, 9:52pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/get-cat-indices-not-showing-all-indices-after-upgrade-to-7-3/366123 "2024-09-05T21:52:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![elastic\_noob1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/elastic_noob1/32/125492_2.png) [@elastic\_noob1](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/elastic_noob1)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2024, 9:52pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/get-cat-indices-not-showing-all-indices-after-upgrade-to-7-3/366123/1 "2024-09-05T21:52:00Z")

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I upgraded our cluster from 6.8 to 7.3.2 and I can only view all indices if I authenticate to the cluster. This was not the case on 6.8:

I get only system indices without authentication:

```auto
➜ curl -s -XGET https://timeline-shared.r1.eu1.com:9200/_cat/indices | wc
      19 190 2014

```

When I authenticate:

```auto
➜ curl -s -XGET -u 'xx:xx' https://timeline-shared.r1.eu1.com:9200/_cat/indices | wc
     473 4730 63855

```

On a 6.8 cluster, I get all indices without authentication:

```auto
➜ curl -s -XGET https://timeline-shared.r1.us1.com:9200/_cat/indices | wc
     541 3306 70330

```

What am I doing wrong here?

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**Author:** ![TimV](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/timv/32/13162_2.png) [@TimV](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/TimV)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2024, 2:06am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/get-cat-indices-not-showing-all-indices-after-upgrade-to-7-3/366123/2 "2024-09-06T02:06:21Z")

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I assume you had security enabled in your 6.8 cluster.

If so, then you must also have _anonymous access_ enabled.

Check your `elasticsearch.yml` for the `xpack.security.authc.anonymous.roles` setting, then check the definition of those roles.

I can't explain why their access would change between 6.8 and 7.3, but perhaps some roles were lost or modified during the upgrade?
