# Hierarchical user management setup **URL:** \ **Category:** Elasticsearch\ **Tags:** elastic-stack-security\ **Created:** [April 5, 2024, 6:07pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/hierarchical-user-management-setup/356886 "2024-04-05T18:07:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![cshacks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@cshacks](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/cshacks)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2024, 6:07pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/hierarchical-user-management-setup/356886/1 "2024-04-05T18:07:58Z")
Hello, So, I am curious if there is a way to setup a hierarchical user management system where I would have one account in Kibana that has the "superuser" role, then I would have other accounts with a custom role called say "site\_admin" that can add and delete accounts that do not have the "superuser" role. Any help / thoughts on this would be awesome! Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![TimV](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/timv/32/13162_2.png) [@TimV](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/TimV)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2024, 4:40am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/hierarchical-user-management-setup/356886/2 "2024-04-30T04:40:08Z")
No, there are no features for that. If you have complex security needs then we recommend you use an external security provider (via LDAP/SAML/OIDC/etc) that is designed to provide a richer set of security features. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 4:40am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/hierarchical-user-management-setup/356886/3 "2024-05-28T04:40:15Z")
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